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MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by neighbor1 »

superkuh wrote: post #231
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

Things may be great on the high end of Apple's M1/M2 laptops given they actually have enough ram for simple tasks. But those are also insanely expensive. At the low end Apple is actively ripping off users providing computers which can't even edit photos. My father, a long time apple user, decided to get an Apple M1 to replace his old Apple macbook. He bought the M1 8GB model (without consulting me). Turns out that th…

Sounds like you have Activity Monitor open constantly. Personally I wouldn't worry so much about RAM usage and instead let the computer do it's thing. I have done intense tests with my 8GB and it handled them just fine (compiling linux while having dozens of tabs open + recording screen + UTM VM, etc.).

The only reason I got a Mac for the first time is because the 8GB had good value. I would never buy the higher-end Macs because spending that much money on a fragile thing that cannot be upgraded is ridiculous to me.

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Post by peanuty1 »

f311a wrote: post #95

I think 32GB of RAM should be the base for PRO models. In a lot of countries, custom models take almost two months of waiting. The M2 Max models have 32GB, but they cost $4000.

That's ridiculous. A lot of people buy the MacBook Pro simply because the only other MacBook has a small 13" screen.

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Post by s3p »

arepublicadoceu wrote: post #267

So the battery life is alluring me to splurge the money for this. But I’m a bit worried because my wife laptop, bought in 2018, already have a 5% health life on its nvme. I don’t worry as I can simply replace it but those macbooks have it soldered. So I guess my question is, what’s the expected lifespan of their SSDs? My current laptop will turn 11 this year, and after battery and ssd replacement it still works great…

Probably, but only in the higher storage models. The lifespan of SSD increases dramatically as you move from 500GB to 1-2 TB. If you REALLY want the longest lasting one then go 2TB. I went 1TB when I bought a macbook pro in 2013 and it lasted for about 7 years before the logic board had some fatal error that neither me nor apple techs were able to fix.

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Post by objclxt »

nicoburns wrote: post #251
mynameisvlad wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s M1 chips already offered improvements compared to their previous generation Intel chips, and Intel hasn’t exactly been innovating in the last 2 years. By all accounts, they have been ahead of Intel, at the very least. I’m not exactly sure how Apple was “behind the state of the art” and has caught up. Can you explain?

> I’m not exactly sure how Apple was “behind the state of the art” and has caught up. Can you explain? The M1 was when they caught up. They were behind the state of the art (of laptop/desktop chip performance) with their A series chips starting with the A4. They gradually caught up over the course of several years to the point that when they released the M1 chip (which was really not that different to the A15) they w…

> They were behind the state of the art (of laptop/desktop chip performance) with their A series chips starting with the A4

...but A series chips were never intended for laptops or desktops? And by all accounts, the A series nearly always out-competed comparable QC Snapdragon chips.

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Post by crossroadsguy »

And the laptop comes with a one year warranty. Extending the warranty means pretty much another laptop’s price from other OEMs. RAM still 8GB in many base models (not sure if that’s so in all the lines) and then there’s this thing how easy to repair these are. I wish my laptop buying strategy was like everybody else’s — Shiny new toy, just get it! :)

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Post by gizmo »

hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

x64 virtual machines on M2 are almost unusably bad for me. Everything else is (near) perfect. Apparently it's somewhat better on Ventura, but I don't want to take the risk of upgrading.

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Post by butterlesstoast »

thefz wrote: post #191
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

Do the M* support external displays with are fresh rate greater than 60Hz?

Depends on the resolution of your external display. I had a 144hz 1080p monitor working as expected with a usb-c to Display Port connection (It didn't work with an HDMI cable).

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Post by victor106 »

garyrob wrote: post #223
optymizer wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardware is indeed great. The software experience is getting worse imo, particularly when upgrading. It used to be rock solid for me. The m1 worked without any issues for 2 months. I upgraded yesterday to macOS Ventura: * Upgrade finished but laptop froze. Hard reset. * On first boot, the new System Settings failed to load icons, then froze. Trying to quit it froze the OS. Hard reset. * I left the laptop plugged…

My own experience is different. \Years ago I would wait at least 6 months or more before doing a mac upgrade because of the inevitable problems. With Ventura I didn't even wait for the first point release, and had no problems whatsoever. (I did have two complete backups handy just in case.) I'm not invaliding your experience, just mentioning that others have different experiences.

This has been my experience as well. One of the first times I had zero issues with a major Mac OS upgrade.

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Post by michpoch »

middle-marathon wrote: post #224
selectodude wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't think of a single currency that has been strengthening against the dollar in the last fifteen years.

CHF

We did not get cheaper Apple devices, no worries. 8% VAT helps a bit though.
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