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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by samcat116 »

thefz wrote: post #191
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

Do the M* support external displays with are fresh rate greater than 60Hz?

Apple quotes that the HDMI port in these can do 4k 240hz

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dbbk »

Gareth321 wrote: post #12
mcny wrote: post #6

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> Is it strange these were not announced during a live event? My conspiracy theory / gut reaction is they want to hide this launch? or at least don't want too many eyes on it? I don't know why I think this but yeah. I have no insider information. This is an unsubstantiated guess.

Extremely underwhelming improvement. The M1 to M2 general performance gap is minor at best.

That is generally how chips go year-over-year. The Intel MacBook Pros were never that dramatic a leap either.

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Post by AlanYx »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #123
boplicity wrote: post #24

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Apple laptops unfortunately give me severe eye strain and headaches; I don't know why. I'm on a laptop with a beautiful OLED screen now, and my eyes are much, much happier. I would switch back to Apple if they offered OLED. I doubt they will, though. They're keen on mini-led, which is inferior in my opinion.

I had the same issue (very severe headache), and this is my solution: https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/rh9bdm/semiwork... It's not what expected, it’s disappointing, and I’ll switch to a new type of display as soon as possible.

In case PWM is an issue for you, the new Macbook Air M2 might be worth trying since it finally ditches PWM.

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Post by masklinn »

breck wrote: post #205
masklinn wrote: post #192

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All of that was already on the M1 versions of the same laptops though wasn’t it?

No. At least not on this one: MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020)

As far as I can see the laptops in TFA are 14 and 16”.

The 13” remains a heavier Air, with two ports on the same side and no magsafe: https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/

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Post by outcoldman »

xtracto wrote: post #118
_fzslm wrote: post #71

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iTerm2 and lima [1] with a ARM64 Linux virtual machine w/ Rosetta (so I can still run x86_64 Linux code!) enabled me to fall in love with my MacBook Pro in this regard. i feel more productive than on a Linux machine now. MacOS is not without its developer power tools, if you dig around enough! [1] https://github.com/lima-vm/lima

For me MacBookPro with M2 chips would be perfect if the 13in model allowed 64GB RAM. My workflow requires me to run Docker (intel images) heavily with several containers. Having a virtualization layer is pretty resource consuming. Usually the Docker + containers I use take around 5GB RAM alone. Under that configuration I've found 32GB to be just within the limit of usability. 16GB are just not enough. Also, for some…

Really don't understand why Apple still selling 13" MBP, as MBP 14 is much better, and you can get it with up to 96GB of memory now. I would assume they keep 13" just for people who still likes TouchBar.

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Post by lern_too_spel »

sem000 wrote: post #62
gnufied wrote: post #46

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I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

What is your Linux laptop giving you that your MBP doesn’t? And how does it hurt your productivity? Genuinely curious as I don’t see how it can be any different.

Others have filled in some of the productivity benefits, but it also avoids a thousand little papercuts. It doesn't have uninstallable crapware like Apple News.

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Post by chamwislothe2nd »

eropple wrote: post #136
John23832 wrote: post #105

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More anectdata. 16" M1 MBP user here (first batch). No problems with the screen. Travels with me literally everywhere I can take my backpack. No case. Are you using your laptop as a frisbee? As far as Apple tax, you pay for quality tools. In life you get what you pay for.

They're not even that expensive as tools go, either. My Festool Domino was $1200. It makes one particular hole in a piece of wood. It's very, very good at it--but it doesn't replace my tablesaw ($600) or my bandsaw ($700) or my tracksaw ($400) or my drill/driver ($300) or my jointer ($600) or my planer ($900) or my drill press ($500) or or or--and I did not buy particular spendy variants of any of those, except the D…

Those tools will last forever so that money makes sense. Apples engages in planned obsolescence so the cost isnt the same. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate

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Post by mynameisvlad »

masklinn wrote: post #192
breck wrote: post #119

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I'm also still on the MacBook Pro M1 and it's amazing. But this new one makes me drool. I am happy to see MagSafe back and the SD card slot and USB-C ports on both sides. Now someone grab my arms before I dump water on this keyboard.

All of that was already on the M1 versions of the same laptops though wasn’t it?

IIRC, Apple offered (offers? I haven’t checked) the 13” M1 which was based on the previous chassis, then launched the 14/16” on the new one.

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Post by Filligree »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #204
Filligree wrote: post #90

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On the M1 Pro, the supplied power brick is a USB-C charger. You can plug it either into the Magsafe port or the C ports on the laptop, and it works the same either way.

Magsafe v3 supports PD 3.1, and the USB-C ports do not; this is not true

Perhaps, but it's charging at the same rate regardless.
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