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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by isolli »

gnufied wrote: post #46
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

What really pushed me towards Apple is that Lenovo offers a very limited set of configurations to us Europeans. No way to get the best machine from them, even if we're willing to pay for it.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by smoldesu »

ianai wrote: post #93
goosedragons wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't though. The fact that they are ridiculously comparing performance to the 3 year old at this point final Intel MacBook (which was a dog turd) in their press release with some very cherry picked benchmarks suggests things aren't quite as good as they could be. Why are they talking about 3+ old parts and not the current competition?

From TA: “With M2 Pro on MacBook Pro: Rendering titles and animations in Motion is up to 80 percent faster1 than the fastest Intel-based MacBook Pro and up to 20 percent faster5 than the previous generation. Compiling in Xcode is up to 2.5x faster1 than the fastest Intel-based MacBook Pro and nearly 25 percent faster5 than the previous generation. Image processing in Adobe Photoshop is up to 80 percent faster1 than t…

In other words, they're absolutely using the Intel machine to bury the lede.

Apple is now facing the same struggle as AMD and Intel. They have a generational processor product that relies on new silicon to get faster, and they can't get new silicon fast enough. The M2 was basically just a wattage-bump of the M1, and looking at the performance increase/processor count, I'm inclined to call the Pro/Max the same thing. You're telling me you added 2 cores to a 10 core system for a 20% performance increase? Wow, color me surprised.

The whole thing feels like Apple's lack of humility here is biting them in the ass. There's nothing wrong with paving your own path in the tech industry, but mocking your competitors is not what a reasonably-educated analyst does. It's what someone in marketing does.

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Post by EugeneOZ »

boplicity wrote: post #24
Mikeb85 wrote: post #10

Strange that Apple still isn't offering OLED screens when most other laptop makers are this year...

Apple laptops unfortunately give me severe eye strain and headaches; I don't know why. I'm on a laptop with a beautiful OLED screen now, and my eyes are much, much happier. I would switch back to Apple if they offered OLED. I doubt they will, though. They're keen on mini-led, which is inferior in my opinion.

I had the same issue (very severe headache), and this is my solution: https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/rh9bdm/semiwork...

It's not what expected, it’s disappointing, and I’ll switch to a new type of display as soon as possible.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by CobaltFire »

gnufied wrote: post #46
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

I had a P1 Gen 4 and went to a 14” M1 MBP and agree.

Screen was a bit better in most ways, keyboard was massively better, and the 16” was lighter (barely) than my 14”.

That said, I ran Win11 (my work environment requires Win) and MacOS is a straight upgrade to that IMO.

I do miss that machine though.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by prng2021 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #84
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

> It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. For people who don't mind an ultra-brittle screen or who don't mind paying an extra 20% Apple tax to get their screen replaced when it breaks. Had a M1 Mac. Screen broke overnight. Meanwhile my LG Gram feels way more sturdy and hasn't let me down in years. M1 Mac lasted about 13 months. Not happy at all with Apple asking 680 EUR to r…

That’s unfortunate you had a terrible experience but in all fairness, you’re one data point. You can simply google “most reliable laptop” and see the that Apple is consistently ranked #1.

As for my own single data point, I have the following in my house and none have had any issues whatsoever: - 2012 inch MacBook Pro - 2017 12 inch MacBook - 2019 MacBook Pro - 2021 Intel MacBook Pro (Company machine) - 2021 M1 MacBook Pro

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by factsarelolz »

csdvrx wrote: post #56

That's when I realize how much my weird hardware preferences set me apart: I mostly care about an OLED screen and ECC ram. Then, a touchscreen supporting pen entry, and a good keyboard (with the edit keys like home/insert/pageup/pagedown directly accessible, bonus is there's also printscreen) especially if it's not a foldable or a tablet. Apple's got good CPU and battery life, but unless the core features are present…

You use a touch screen and pen on something other than a nonfoldable/tablet? Interesting.

Thanks for the share.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by wrldos »

Not_John wrote: post #50
wrldos wrote: post #2

Pricing has gone crazy here in the UK. Paid £1899 for my M1 Pro. Same spec M2 Pro is £2199. Edit: at this rate when my previous gen one expires I'm going to think seriously about shifting back to ThinkPads...

A new Thinkpad x1 with an i7, 16gb ram and 1tb ssd is at £2400. And you cant get more than 16gb of ram. imho the MacBook Pro is not unreasonable expensive.

I can get an i7 T14 gen 3 with 16GB RAM and stick a new SSD and another 16Gb RAM in it for < £1500

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by rmccue »

enragedcacti wrote: post #82
cantSpellSober wrote: post #55

> MagSafe 3 charging The biggest differences between v2 and v3 of MagSafe are: • v3 is 1 mm longer (doesn't fit v2 models) • v3 supports PD 3.1 ...is that all? > Thunderbolt 4 Type-C ports ...these do NOT support PD 3.1, correct?

Probably just aligning with the new Qi spec? https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/qi2-the-new-standard-for-wi... edit: should've rtfa'd, its the laptop magsafe

That's (confusingly) a different MagSafe.

Apple has MagSafe connectors for charging on laptops, which was the original MagSafe. The name comes from the connector being magnetic, and being "safe" since tripping over the cable would make it disconnect without pulling your laptop off the table. They discontinued this in favour of charging through USB-C cables/ports a while back.

They then introduced magnetic charging for iPhones, similar to (but IIRC not exactly) their Qi charging support. This reused the MagSafe name since they didn't have any products with it. The evolution of this is speculated to be incorporated and standardised as Qi2.

Then they introduced the MagSafe charging connector back to their laptops (but updated), and so confusingly there's two basically unrelated features both called MagSafe. Maybe that'll get cleared up a bit once Qi2 comes out.

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