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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dugab »

hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

I have no issues working with Docker/Python on a M1 Macbooks. Docker Desktop/Colima does the job well, and most of the images I use are available on arm. Running amd64 images is slower, but works well.

For Python, Python itself is rarely the problem, but more often some older libraries that don't have wheels for M1 Mac, or incompatibilities. Upgrading your dependencies, if it's an option, is often enough.

Asdf + PDM are also nice tools to work with multiple projects/Py versions easily.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by sem000 »

gnufied wrote: post #46
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

What is your Linux laptop giving you that your MBP doesn’t? And how does it hurt your productivity? Genuinely curious as I don’t see how it can be any different.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dochtman »

wrldos wrote: post #2

Pricing has gone crazy here in the UK. Paid £1899 for my M1 Pro. Same spec M2 Pro is £2199. Edit: at this rate when my previous gen one expires I'm going to think seriously about shifting back to ThinkPads...

Difference in EUR is also pretty crazy. My 16" M1 Max was about EUR 1000 cheaper than a similarly specced M2 Max, about a 28% increase.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by nawgz »

jchw wrote: post #34

It's worrying that they are shying away from specifying generational improvements or at least comparing to it's competitors. The "fastest Intel MacBook" is not really the competitor for an M2 MacBook Pro, it's a predecessor. But I'd rather hear about generational improvements from M1, especially because both Intel and AMD seem to be making great strides in the low power space lately.

As an M1 owner, it's the opposite of a worry for my wallet :)

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by interpol_p »

gnufied wrote: post #46
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

I have the same complaint about weight

I upgraded from the 13" M1 Air to the 14" MacBook Pro M1 Max

While Blender performance (rendering especially) is much faster, I sorely miss the MacBook Air's portability. The 14" is built like a brick. Compile times are faster, video editing is nicer with more RAM in the Pro, but it's a really tough call given just how different the weight is

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by evgen »

wrldos wrote: post #2

Pricing has gone crazy here in the UK. Paid £1899 for my M1 Pro. Same spec M2 Pro is £2199. Edit: at this rate when my previous gen one expires I'm going to think seriously about shifting back to ThinkPads...

The pound has gone to shit and the UK price includes VAT. Take away VAT and use current exchange rates and you are paying a $200 premium in the UK, so 10% above US price is actually a smaller difference than it has been in the recent past when the pound was $1.5 but the only difference between the two price lists was changing a $ for a £.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by Waterluvian »

jchw wrote: post #34

It's worrying that they are shying away from specifying generational improvements or at least comparing to it's competitors. The "fastest Intel MacBook" is not really the competitor for an M2 MacBook Pro, it's a predecessor. But I'd rather hear about generational improvements from M1, especially because both Intel and AMD seem to be making great strides in the low power space lately.

Edit: I no-longer hold this opinion as I missed that there's already been an M1 MacBook Pro and it should be comparing to that.

For as long as I can remember, Apple has compared new products to the previous product. And it is a more sensible approach than picking some arbitrary competitor from a huge collection of possible options, because it gives a fixed frame of reference, one of which many of the target audience are aware of. 6x faster than the previous model is very good marketing.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by lowercased »

mpeg wrote: post #16

New Mac mini with the M2 Pro maxes out at 32GB memory, that's quite disappointing compared to the Macbook Pro's 96GB. On the other hand, my M2 Macbook Air is one of the best purchases I've made in a long time, great fanless laptop.

I didn't even notice the mac mini bump. Got mine in aug 2021 - more ram would be nice. And with medium drive, that puts it at ~ $2k. At that price, I'm more tempted to go back to the laptop world.
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