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Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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Personally, as a freelancer/consultant, I never think there is a right time for anything in my life. Of course, you might feel differently (and it probably is different). I'm offering advice from my perspective only, and I don't have a home to make, or children to worry about. I've been freelance/consulting/whatever for about 2 years, so make of this what you will, but I'm still early stages having just been where yo…

FWIW, I futzed with Upwork years ago. It became super clear that it wasn't where I could sell my skills (deep backend, sre) effectively and come out with outcomes good for me and the client.

I do FTE work but occasionally dream of the side income (less so these days ha). :)

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

#72

I would advise you to find a partner who is also a data engineer/scientist and team up, it would be much easier also to share the workload, ideally even someone with network will bring in some new clients.

good idea, YC has the cofounder matchmaker program, it's free and easy to use

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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Definitely a lot higher than on Upwork, on average.

Let's say someone working for FAANG making $300,000 USD per year (including benefits), that's roughly equivalent to $150 per hour. Could they make the same on Top Tal?

Approx 1 year ago I did part of the interview process to freelance on toptal, but I dropped as I've found a better opportunity. At the time the lowest rate you could find for a developer was $70/h. In constrast on upwork I see developers for as low as $15/h. Can't tell if you'd get $150 but it's definitely possible to get $100+.

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

#74

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Recruiters typically charge approximately 10% in the markets I am familiar with. They also act as a free sales force and have supplier agreements with end clients. These are very hard to secure directly for one man bands. I would argue that it's not really consulting or running your own business if you are working through a recruiter. It's more akin to short term employment. That may be fine for your aims however.

Recruiters are also an insurance policy for clients. They mitigate some risk.

> They mitigate some risk.

Do they actually mitigate some risk? Or do they make the client feel like they've mitigated some risk?

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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You should consider two most important things (unfortunately, each other opposite): 1. Yes, better to start own business when favorable environment, for example, when see macroeconomic grow (now recession, and high probability of crisis), or when You have some money accumulation. 2. But business is by definition, PRACTICE of make stakes and earn profits on success. - You will not practice if not try. And best practic…

> better to start own business when favorable environment, for example, when see macroeconomic grow (now recession, and high probability of crisis), I could actually see the opposite being true. Lots of companies might not want to hire FTEs right now due to a maybe recession, but there's still a lot of work to be done, so they just use contractors instead.

> there's still a lot of work to be done

This is huge mistake. Looks like You don't understand enterprise economy and recession.

In reality, enterprise economy divided to two semi-connected parts:

1. making (sell) new products (new and existing services).

2. support of existing products (services), support subscribers.

Part 2 is near constant when recession (in reality it slow declining, but not much, typical 5% decline per year for US large enterprises).

And by definition, part 2 grow, when have activities on part 1.

But! By definition, activities of part 1 need investments, for development and for marketing.

Exists one exclusion - when Your competitor fail, You could try to gather his customers. This could be very cheap. Sometimes You will decide to pay money, to somebody, so You could avoid these customers, because now You don't have free resources and don't want to invest (read next).

Mean, to grow business, You should invest something, but when recession, money become expensive (fees are raising, inflation happen, but without grow), so You must cut costs, and first thing doing typical business - stop all development, and cut marketing activity.

You are partially right, support is also huge, but it cannot substitute development.

And by definition, development and support are very different types of work, so when recession, people must learn different things than when grow.

Sure, not all people learn well, and learning is very time-consuming process, so appear gap on market, between supply and demand. And because of this gap, appears illusion of lot work.

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recruiters are also an insurance policy for clients. They mitigate some risk.

> They mitigate some risk. Do they actually mitigate some risk? Or do they make the client feel like they've mitigated some risk?

I mean, value is value.

But I gather many clients have a strong working relationship with one recruitment firm so that if anything goes wrong, that firm will want to maintain the relationship and find a replacement ASAP from their pool.

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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Hello! I'm also on a similar boat. I'm based in Brazil, but do speak spanish as I work at Rappi. Would love to chat about this type of endeavor we got going on. Let me know if there is any prefered contact method! Cheers and good luck!

Happy to chat, my mail is in the profile

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

#79

How much work do you think the new work would take? Depending on the nature of the engagement, it doesn't have to be a 'jump' at all. If possible, an option would be to make it a more reduced hours engagement that you can moonlight. Then you can get the consulting experience, maintain the income of your full-time job, and see how it goes. Once you have one engagement under your belt, then it also becomes much easier…

That's something I have to talk with this new customer, I'll try to start with a reduced amount of dedication and then increase it if needed as the project evolves.

Re: Ask HN: When to make the jump to freelance/consultant?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had about 15 years professional experience as a developer.

What’s your income now? Like is it an order of magnitude higher?

Yes, I make considerably more than I did as a IC engineer but I have significantly more stress/risk.
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