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Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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Islam brought the concept of "inalienable rights" to the West. The West still doesn't get it because in their system, emergency powers override every "inalienable right" the Westerners think they are entitled to.

I like to suck dick.

If I get caught sucking dick in a Muslim country, I die.

If I suck dick in the west, maybe I get my own dick sucked in return.

Tell me again about the freedom of the islamic world.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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> The things that keep the west alive are abstract, unfathomable concepts to the Ummah. As a Muslim, this is so incorrect to the point of almost absurdity. Just because you have encountered one person who appeared to you that he did not understand or comprehend a certain topic you were explaining, does not mean that the rest of the Muslims are the same. I can point you to many many youtube channels (just as an exampl…

"One person" Like I said I've been in the islamic world for a decade. I've studied Arabic/Turkish music in Iran, Egypt, Turkiye, Azerbaijan, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel. It's not like "I met one muslim". I have spent about 20 hours per week for the past decade teaching Syrian and Yemeni refugees in Istanbul and Ankara. Please point me to a democratic, secular islamic nation. Just one? As far as I can tell this only ex…

As if that is by choice? Not foreign interference?, be it from the east or other Arab countries.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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> His English is very good, but the concept of inalienable rights, freedom of speech, and freedom to yell at our politicians .. he was intellectually incapable of understanding this, his society had brainwashed him so thoroughly. I don’t think that’s a charitable or logical framing of his point of view. Unless you’re religious—which the American framers were—“inalienable rights” are an illogical concept. In the state…

It’s hilarious watching all the posters tell OP he’s mistaken about a life experience he had. Hubris abound.

> It’s hilarious watching all the posters tell OP he’s mistaken about a life experience he had.

This is a pretty bullshit reading of the comment you replied to, which was about the nature of "rights" as a social agreement rather than something natural.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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> His English is very good, but the concept of inalienable rights, freedom of speech, and freedom to yell at our politicians .. he was intellectually incapable of understanding this, his society had brainwashed him so thoroughly. I don’t think that’s a charitable or logical framing of his point of view. Unless you’re religious—which the American framers were—“inalienable rights” are an illogical concept. In the state…

You will get a lot of hate for this but I must admit:

What made Western Europe diverge from places like Russia or Saudi Arabia?

Individuality seems to have been invented and embraced by European and American intelligentsia.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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post #29

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Islam brought the concept of "inalienable rights" to the West. The West still doesn't get it because in their system, emergency powers override every "inalienable right" the Westerners think they are entitled to.

I like to suck dick. If I get caught sucking dick in a Muslim country, I die. If I suck dick in the west, maybe I get my own dick sucked in return. Tell me again about the freedom of the islamic world.

Because the locals don't want to, and you know it.

Ask anybody in the streets about their opinions of gays, and you shall get your answer.

It may be fundamental freedom for you, but for them its an outrageous act that deserves punishment.

Don't like it, don't stay there, simple.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Islam brought the concept of "inalienable rights" to the West. The West still doesn't get it because in their system, emergency powers override every "inalienable right" the Westerners think they are entitled to.

I like to suck dick. If I get caught sucking dick in a Muslim country, I die. If I suck dick in the west, maybe I get my own dick sucked in return. Tell me again about the freedom of the islamic world.

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Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Islam brought the concept of "inalienable rights" to the West. The West still doesn't get it because in their system, emergency powers override every "inalienable right" the Westerners think they are entitled to.

I like to suck dick. If I get caught sucking dick in a Muslim country, I die. If I suck dick in the west, maybe I get my own dick sucked in return. Tell me again about the freedom of the islamic world.

Try being a bisexual occultist anywhere Islam entrenched itself in government.

I might as well commit suicide if I have to go there. If they find out, I would be stoned probably immediately. Or, I've got a collection of pictures of what they do using knives - "Et tu Brute" style.

I would consider going to a Sufi controlled area. At least they have some semblance of sense.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Islam brought the concept of "inalienable rights" to the West. The West still doesn't get it because in their system, emergency powers override every "inalienable right" the Westerners think they are entitled to.

I like to suck dick. If I get caught sucking dick in a Muslim country, I die. If I suck dick in the west, maybe I get my own dick sucked in return. Tell me again about the freedom of the islamic world.

Is this a joke, or do you not know that Lawrence v. Texas is from 2003? I've got jeans older than the inalienable right to suck dick in the US.

Re: Wikipedia editors serving long sentences in Saudi Arabia since 2020

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My parents lived in Jordan (as expats) for over 30 years. Back in 1980, Jordan was a very modern country and had great rulers, my father was in good relations with one of the king's sons (I don't remember which one) and he met the king several times, he was speaking highly about them and he considered Jordan one of the most modern and free Muslim countries. At the same time, rights and freedoms are limited in most of…

Just because everyone is doing it, doesn't make it right. Though I do not see how mixing the state with any religion would help in this regard. But sure, let's bash all authoritarianism to avoid hypocrisy :D
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