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Cutting the Cord on Cable

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Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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Anyone switch to Clear or some other 4G variant and have success? seems cheaper than just Comcast.

I have Clear 4G as a backup and have found the speeds to be highly variable and sometime have no service at all. I live in an "excellent coverage" area and keep the little WiFi hotspot on my window sill.

Also, their customer service is.... not great.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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> ~my cable provider's my best broadband option"

We're witnessing non-death throes of a more-intelligent animal.

When the music industry was disrupted completely, their Plan B was a white-knuckle-grip onto Plan A (their traditional business model). The cablecos were foresightful enough to turn their TV monopolies into broadband value-adds. They've done a drn good job at it, despite the bellyaching we can do. While providing "the best available internet access," they're no dummies, and entrenched cableco interests will ensure cord-cutting's not easy.

HBO is balancing the beam effectively (for their business, if less so for their "audience"). They have zero plans to make their "HBO-Anywhere" service available except to cable subs.

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-hbo-to-cord-cutters-youll...

Competition is still Good. Cableco monopolists were in no hurry to improve things until DSL and fiber-to-the-premises services became available and attractive. But they've responded.

Re TV programming itself, cutting the cord is more difficult when kids are involved. Even with timeshifting as second (or first) nature, you need the source to switch from.* As for torrenting, etc., "it's only 'free' if your time has no value" comes to play.

Per the cited article, and per comments in this thread, TV is a lean-back, consumption-oriented time sink. I like to have that even knowing it's a less-than-optimal use of time.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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But where is the author getting his internet service from? For instance, I live in Brooklyn, and the only reliable high-speed internet service is via Time Warner Cable. I currently get their WideBand service (50mbps down) bundled with basic cable and an VOIP phone I never use in a 12-month promotion. This costs me $118 p/mo. When that 12-month period was up I called to cancel stuff and they extended that promotion fo…

Clear 4G is a dream to setup though. No shady install guy and 4 to 8 hour window. You get a box in the mail next day and plug it in.

Unfortunately, if you actually use it as the broadband connection they advertise, they'll throttle you so hard you might as well be on dialup.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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You could just pirate the shows worth watching. That seems to be popular these days, or so I hear...

As a poor college student I can't really deny the appeal of piracy but: a) Saying 'hey, I can get this illegally for free' isn't really a valid economic argument. b) Pirating HBO just, I dunno, feels wrong. They're a company with a unique economic model that consistently produces amazing television; even if it's on an incredibly micro scale, I think they should be rewarded for that.

I have begun to think of TV as a lossleader for DVD sales. At this point I mostly spy on what kind of shows people in the US talk about, read up on them and select one for my parents birthdays + christmas. My parents love this, I have no trouble buying them gifts(thanks to Amazon.co.uk) and there is a new market for HBO.

But yeah, HBO will earn more money when they get off cable-only.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could just pirate the shows worth watching. That seems to be popular these days, or so I hear...

As a poor college student I can't really deny the appeal of piracy but: a) Saying 'hey, I can get this illegally for free' isn't really a valid economic argument. b) Pirating HBO just, I dunno, feels wrong. They're a company with a unique economic model that consistently produces amazing television; even if it's on an incredibly micro scale, I think they should be rewarded for that.

Netflix the DVDs one season behind.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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> ~my cable provider's my best broadband option" We're witnessing non-death throes of a more-intelligent animal. When the music industry was disrupted completely, their Plan B was a white-knuckle-grip onto Plan A (their traditional business model). The cablecos were foresightful enough to turn their TV monopolies into broadband value-adds. They've done a d rn good job at it, despite the bellyaching we can do. While p…

> As for torrenting, etc., "it's only 'free' if your time has no value" comes to play.

Whenever I hear someone disregard torrents offhand, I get the distinct impression that they've either never actually tried it or that they're simply being dishonest, because piracy has never been easier.

Have you actually tried torrenting TV shows or movies (or any other type of digital content, for that matter)? Contrary to the FUD that seems to be popular opinion on HN, it's a cake walk. Most importantly, learning how to use torrents is a (rather small) one-time time investment, whereas watching TV means that you perenially waste 1/4th of your viewing time watching ads. And don't forget that you have to keep track of when shows are airing and either watch them then or remember to record them for later viewing.

So if saving time is one of your primary concerns, the numbers simply don't add up in favor of broadcast TV, no matter how you look at them.

In fact, piracy is so easy that I won't even bother with free solutions like Hulu - why should I waste my time traversing 10 different sites looking for a particular episode of a particular show I want to see when I can go to the same torrent site every time and have a virtual guarantee that the content I want will be instantly available, and in HD, at that?

If you have moral qualms with respect to piracy, I can agree to disagree, despite my personal lack of objections to the practice. But claiming that piracy is somehow time inefficient is nothing more or less than pure prevarication.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clear 4G is a dream to setup though. No shady install guy and 4 to 8 hour window. You get a box in the mail next day and plug it in.

I have a Clear4G mobile box sitting right here next to my keyboard. I have this as a backup since my TWC connection completely crapped out for 3 days and I work remote. While it is easy to install (walk to BestBuy and purchase, turn on) I've found the speeds to be highly variable, sometimes losing bandwidth all together. I live in an area zoned for "Excellent coverage" so not sure what the issue is.

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Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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I pay $40 month for ESPN in HD. I love football, and more importantly, the majority of my customers and important contacts love it more. $500 year for an easy and relevant conversation starter is a steal.

If you only do it for NFL, you might reconsider. All regular Sunday day games, Sunday night football and all ESPN/NFL network games with your local team are available for free in HD over the air. And all playoff games and Superbowl, too. The live sports was my main reason for holding on to cable for so long, but I finally made the switch two years ago and it's great. I can watch all NFL I want, once a week baseball a…

Yeah, I'm on about that setup too. Now if I could only convince CBS to actually show at least one of the games they're carrying. Half the time it's paid programming filler.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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The author claims he cut cable yet pays $340/year to get NFL Sunday Ticket on his PS3 - really? The only reason I still have cable is for ESPN. They have live sports that are exclusive to ESPN and the only way to get ESPN is to have cable.

Exactly. Throw in a ~$200 subscription to NBA League Pass and you're now probably not saving that much money. Live sports is still the biggest challenge to cutting the cord, yet the author spends just one paragraph touching on this. For anyone who watches live sports on a regular basis, dropping cable just isn't an option. And no, driving down to the local bar to catch a game isn't an option either.

Re: Cutting the Cord on Cable

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I pay $40 month for ESPN in HD. I love football, and more importantly, the majority of my customers and important contacts love it more. $500 year for an easy and relevant conversation starter is a steal.

If you only do it for NFL, you might reconsider. All regular Sunday day games, Sunday night football and all ESPN/NFL network games with your local team are available for free in HD over the air. And all playoff games and Superbowl, too. The live sports was my main reason for holding on to cable for so long, but I finally made the switch two years ago and it's great. I can watch all NFL I want, once a week baseball a…

I know nothing of HD over the air, but ESPN is available? In my oldschool mindset, that's a "cable" channel and not available over the air. But I could be wrong.
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