We all know how this goes from dating websites... just a bunch of non-technical co-founders looking for easy matches or pretending to be developers to keep tabs on their former engineers. Bet there are tons of fake developer accounts too. We are not pieces of meat!
Show HN: DevClad – A social-workspace platform for developers
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is not about being reclusive/introverted/autistic/antisocial/whatever Sounds like it might be about being extraverted. It of course depends on the specific scenario, but introverts tend to be more comfortable 1 on 1 or in small groups, whereas extraverts tend to prefer small groups or large groups.
Tbh, it sounds like it might be about not wanting to connect that bad . Because if you want to connect really bad (for romance, business, friendship, or what have you), you learn very quickly that one-to-one connections are not something you dispense with.
There's an important distinction here between the concepts of "wanting to" and "knowing how to" and how they impact someone's decision to attempt something. For example, your car may break down and you may ultimately decide to have it towed to a garage and repaired by a mechanic even though you may very badly "want to" repair it yourself. You make that decision because you understand that you do not "know how to" fix it yourself. The outcome of that scenario can be very different based on the degree to which you want to or know how to approach it.
Similarly, someone who decides to avoid a one on one interaction with someone may very badly want to make a connection with someone else but they decide not to because they don't know how to appropriately handle such a situation. This may not be entirely anxiety driven since many people will have repeatedly attempted one on one connections and failed badly, leading them to believe perhaps rightly that they don't know how to and so they must lean on some other device such as socializing only in group settings where they can build off of others' social skills.
I'm not saying it's impossible for anyone to learn how to successfully connect one on one with others, I'm just asking that you not assume that everyone has the same learned skills and knowledge that you do.
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#43OP: this is not a direct criticism of your idea or implementation (in fact, by the end, you might notice I'm not sure I even have a valid criticism here), just a general observation on a trend I feel is common on this sort of initiative. I don't know about y'all, but I hate this idea of random 1-on-1s. Nothing sends my anxiety levels to the freaking roof as the idea of having to talk alone to a complete stranger. Mak…
Group chats also reduce the likelihood for abuse, which is why all prevention nowadays requires more than two people present in abuse-prone situations like locker rooms etc.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
You completely missed my point. I'm not talking about managers, I'm talking about how fucking awkward it is to talk to people. We're mostly all a bunch of nerds. Lots of common ground, below average social skills. (I'm intentionally being facetious here.) Small groups of 3-4 people with similar interests are WAY easier to feel comfortable in and get interesting conversations going.
Even for "nerds" there are usually people where they don't feel awkward about talking to them (Friends, family, online regulars,...). My point is that by not making a 1:1 a big event but rather a regular occurrence it'll be just become part of a regular week, and not a big event or something to feel awkward about. This is very different to meeting an online stranger you have never interacted with every week.
> This is very different to meeting an online stranger you have never interacted with every week.
Isn't that what's happening in this app? From the landing page:
> Every week, you are matched with another dev automatically for a 1 on 1 call.
So it's going to super awkward for people that don't like cold starts with strangers. I agree with the other commenter but I've also seen responses in other comments that say some people prefer 1-on-1s to groups so I say, why not both? Just have a preference that says if you want to do 1-on-1 or a small group and let people choose. That way if you change your mind or want to try out the other type you can switch.
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#45Just tried it and even though I hit save on step 2, nothing happened and it deleted everything when I went back to step 1… Hope you can figure it out.
I'll try replicating it. Update: It's a possibility you didn't hit Save on Step 1.
I also had a problem. Figured it out by submitting with dev console open and reading HTTP response. There were no messages for errors: required fields, pronouns had a min lenght and stuff like that.
Really like the idea and willing to try it out. Hope it works well. Good luck.
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#46OP: this is not a direct criticism of your idea or implementation (in fact, by the end, you might notice I'm not sure I even have a valid criticism here), just a general observation on a trend I feel is common on this sort of initiative. I don't know about y'all, but I hate this idea of random 1-on-1s. Nothing sends my anxiety levels to the freaking roof as the idea of having to talk alone to a complete stranger. Mak…
> This is not about being reclusive/introverted/autistic/antisocial/whatever Sounds like it might be about being extraverted. It of course depends on the specific scenario, but introverts tend to be more comfortable 1 on 1 or in small groups, whereas extraverts tend to prefer small groups or large groups.
Honestly? I'm not an extrovert at all but a group of 3+ people makes it a lot easier to keep my distance and get a feel for how people are before engaging with them. For me this is very much an autism thing.
When going to conferences I've made it a habit to try to talk to new people on every break out of principle (because after all, if I just want to watch the talks, usually there are recordings available afterwards or even a livestream, so they're a waste of money on their own). But approaching strangers standing alone is extremely awkward unless you have a plausible excuse (e.g. queuing) so the "open circle" group of 3+ people (i.e. keeping enough space while facing each other so at least another person can easily join) tends to work best.
Being in a group of 3+ people also reduces the social anxiety of whether it's okay to back out because you're not abandoning the person specifically, while also making it easier for an additional person to join because there's already a conversation going so it's fine if you find that you have nothing to add.
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#47Services for developers? Good luck!
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh, it sounds like it might be about not wanting to connect that bad . Because if you want to connect really bad (for romance, business, friendship, or what have you), you learn very quickly that one-to-one connections are not something you dispense with.
There's an important distinction here between the concepts of "wanting to" and "knowing how to" and how they impact someone's decision to attempt something. For example, your car may break down and you may ultimately decide to have it towed to a garage and repaired by a mechanic even though you may very badly "want to" repair it yourself. You make that decision because you understand that you do not "know how to" fix…
I am getting lost in all these semantic considerations.
How can you build a business or form a romantic relationship or a friendship without one-to-one connections?
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's an important distinction here between the concepts of "wanting to" and "knowing how to" and how they impact someone's decision to attempt something. For example, your car may break down and you may ultimately decide to have it towed to a garage and repaired by a mechanic even though you may very badly "want to" repair it yourself. You make that decision because you understand that you do not "know how to" fix…
I am getting lost in all these semantic considerations. How can you build a business or form a romantic relationship or a friendship without one-to-one connections?
I think the TLDR is that you might WANT to build a business, form romantic relationship or friendships, but not have the skills to do so or else be uncomfortable with the process of getting to that point (despite wanting the end result).
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#50Seems nice! I would prefer a twist of this more towards finding other's with an expertise you don't have yourself and having the option to center the conversation around a particular topic, and some expectation of sharing advice and expertise (not just chatting).
There could be a paid model, or you could imagine a credit system where you also offer your own expertise and time to others in equal measure. That could still lead to finding things to work together on, but could also lead to learning, consulting gigs or just networking - with the added benefit of being immediately useful at work. But that maybe already exists somewhere?