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Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
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Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#32I think the sense entitlement goes both ways. Sometimes maintainers get the wrong idea that their work is above critique because it's open source.
Such that even when presented with reasonable feedback, they balk and snap at the contributor. "Well if you don't like feature X, why don't you GTFO and fork it". For some reason it's okay for contributions to be critiqued but not the projects. Who gave this poor author this wrong idea?
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is interesting to see the differences in how people handle negativity online. Some people have no problem ignoring negativity and moving on. Others get satisfaction in hitting the block button. Others can't let it go and will eventually let negativity consume them and burn them out. Learning how to shrug it off is imperative for anyone who wants to post something online. If you can't ignore negative comments and m…
> If you can't ignore negative comments and move on without getting worked up Expecting everyone to have your opinion is literally entitlement. Perhaps consider empathizing and addressing the complexities root cause rather than just shrugging it off as, "boys will be boys."
If anyone is entitled in this discussion it would be the people expecting to be spoken to in their preferred tone.
Perhaps consider that you will never be able to control the actions of other people and that you can only control the actions (and reactions) of yourself.
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is interesting to see the differences in how people handle negativity online. Some people have no problem ignoring negativity and moving on. Others get satisfaction in hitting the block button. Others can't let it go and will eventually let negativity consume them and burn them out. Learning how to shrug it off is imperative for anyone who wants to post something online. If you can't ignore negative comments and m…
> If you can't ignore negative comments and move on without getting worked up Expecting everyone to have your opinion is literally entitlement. Perhaps consider empathizing and addressing the complexities root cause rather than just shrugging it off as, "boys will be boys."
I don't understand your point. Are you agreeing that you should simply shrug it off because not everyone will have your opinion, or are you disagreeing?
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#35One thing I learned from playing video games is that online, you can just ignore and block anyone. Seriously, everything is detached. What's the difference between a stranger on the internet yelling at you versus a crazy homeless man in San Francisco yelling at you? Absolutely none, their thoughts affect in you in 0 ways, feel free to ignore and carry on with your day. Edit, because a lot of replies are getting off-t…
It is interesting to see the differences in how people handle negativity online. Some people have no problem ignoring negativity and moving on. Others get satisfaction in hitting the block button. Others can't let it go and will eventually let negativity consume them and burn them out. Learning how to shrug it off is imperative for anyone who wants to post something online. If you can't ignore negative comments and m…
It also depends on which platform you're on. Traditional forum software has lots of moderation tools at your disposal. Chat software tends to be more limited. GitHub has virtually no tooling for moderatings issues/PRs and blocking abusive people. It's much harder to ignore negativity when you can't decisively remove them from your working environment.
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#36One thing I learned from playing video games is that online, you can just ignore and block anyone. Seriously, everything is detached. What's the difference between a stranger on the internet yelling at you versus a crazy homeless man in San Francisco yelling at you? Absolutely none, their thoughts affect in you in 0 ways, feel free to ignore and carry on with your day. Edit, because a lot of replies are getting off-t…
because online they can follow you around the internet and lie about you or otherwise harass you. This is something that has definitely happened.
Also,since they can probably connect you to you real name,who knows what else they might do.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just ignoring someone, IRL or online can have its consequences. The homeless guy can attack you physically. The online troll can try to cancel you digitally. If the last few years have taught us anything, it is that no one is safe from abusive behavior by people who feel entitled to something you have (money, time, etc.) and seem to have nothing better to do than go after you for the slightest thing. Online they can…
Never interact online with your real name. The internet is not a real place. Block the people who are annoying and get on with doing what you enjoy. They can try to cancel your online name all they want. It doesn't matter.
Many (if not most) contribute to FOSS projects under their real names, and often have their email addresses (even if maybe project specific), so they can bother you off list in various ways.
This happens in FOSS projects even to this day. There's this one dude who is banned from a popular linux distro mailing list, so he reads the public archives and emails the people he has disagreements with to yell at them.
Nobody who signed up for that list expected to be yelled at by some asshole.
Others have followed maintainers of projects to other projects to yell at them and spread lies about them to others.
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
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Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#39One thing I learned from playing video games is that online, you can just ignore and block anyone. Seriously, everything is detached. What's the difference between a stranger on the internet yelling at you versus a crazy homeless man in San Francisco yelling at you? Absolutely none, their thoughts affect in you in 0 ways, feel free to ignore and carry on with your day. Edit, because a lot of replies are getting off-t…
Let’s just be honest.
I won’t use the “U-word” because it usually sets HN on fire everytime it’s used.
BUT
…the conditions are such that maintainers should bargain collectively.
THE CONDITIONS:
- entitled people screaming at you to do stuff.
- corporations taking advantage of you.
- being paid very little.
Re: Toxicity in Open Source Discussions
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you can't ignore negative comments and move on without getting worked up Expecting everyone to have your opinion is literally entitlement. Perhaps consider empathizing and addressing the complexities root cause rather than just shrugging it off as, "boys will be boys."
If anyone is entitled in this discussion it would be the people expecting to be spoken to in their preferred tone. Perhaps consider that you will never be able to control the actions of other people and that you can only control the actions (and reactions) of yourself.
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