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Re: The Shit Show

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Post by tag2103 »

postmeta wrote: post #101
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

I think he reached peak ad hominem: "a prick" "Space Karen" "King Shithead" "shitty person" "arrogant bastard" "billionaire bozo" "a clown"

I'll probably get severely downvoted for this but the whole tripe screamed nothing but narcissist who got his free toy taken away.

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Post by girvo »

tptacek wrote: post #140
latchkey wrote: post #136

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Indeed. I got to that point of signup and playing with Mastodon and stopped. What, am I supposed to go hunting for some random server that'll allow me to join? Nah. I'll take my chances with getting kicked off or banned from Twitter, thanks. If I'm sent away from Twitter, I'll just stop consuming that content entirely. Probably a waste of time anyway.

This notion of affiliating with specific servers with specific cultures is I think one of the first things that's going to go out the window as Mastodon/ActivityPub succeeds. It's not that hard to provision single-user instances, and the fabled moderation overhead issues are, as I understand from talking to operators, mostly a thing that follows from having lots of people in an instance following lots of other instan…

> I'll be on my own address sometime in the next month or so.

As someone who's looking to do exactly that myself, what server are you thinking of running? Mastodon itself, or one of the others?

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Post by dqft »

mhio wrote: post #154
tptacek wrote: post #87

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In the set-associative cache that was my brain in 1998, MP3s occupied the same slot as XDCC'd Amiga mods. But much bigger files. I was carrying around giant folders of CDs at the time. Also: you had to listen to them... on your computer? I had a whole discrete stereo system. Why would I want to listen to music through game speakers?

3.5mm to RCA adapters were a thing! Usually very, very long ones.

My PC is still connected 3.5mm to RCA to a old stereo box to my Dad's old full size JL430w Kenwoods which use the same 40 year old speaker wires. Still great sound!

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Post by bioemerl »

wyclif wrote: post #217
dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #161

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Twitter was really pretty solid for what it was, had lots of great accounts and even with the stock UI was pretty operable for me. Even advertising on Twitter was pretty fun. You could reach people all over the world at reasonable cost and get feedback on your product and messaging. Most recently I used Twitter pretty much exclusively for following the war in Ukraine, and it’s been a big loss for me—Telegram is a goo…

> RIP Twitter Reports of Twitter's demise are greatly exaggerated by people with "Spaceman Bad" political brainworms.

Unfortunately it takes a lot, and I mean a lot, to overcome network effects when something like Twitter is involved. The only way it goes under is if they are losing revenue and they actually go bankrupt at some point.

Elon has already been muzzled quite a bit and I haven't seen much out of him recently, so I imagine as long as that keeps being the case going forward we're going to see Twitter do just fine.

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Post by int_19h »

w0mbat wrote: post #38

The “Space Karen” slur is lame. Elon is the manager in this situation, and if you’re complaining to the manager, you’re the Karen.

Elon took "complaining to the manager" to a whole new level by buying the whole company outright and then firing all the managers he was ranting about.

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Post by wyclif »

bioemerl wrote: post #264
wyclif wrote: post #217

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> RIP Twitter Reports of Twitter's demise are greatly exaggerated by people with "Spaceman Bad" political brainworms.

Unfortunately it takes a lot, and I mean a lot, to overcome network effects when something like Twitter is involved. The only way it goes under is if they are losing revenue and they actually go bankrupt at some point. Elon has already been muzzled quite a bit and I haven't seen much out of him recently, so I imagine as long as that keeps being the case going forward we're going to see Twitter do just fine.

>I haven't seen much out of him recently

Ever heard of Space X, Tesla, and the Boring Company?

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Post by bobleeswagger »

mjmsmith wrote: post #248
wyclif wrote: post #230

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Ehhh. Nobody's "simping for Musk" in this thread. You should just evaluate Twitter on its own merits. Don't worry about the fact that Elon Musk doesn't march lockstep to woke orthodoxy.

And there it is, the inevitable "woke". Why is this hard to understand without bringing your politics into it? If you build an app that depends on an API, it really sucks if that API is taken away. But we all know it happens. Even so, most companies care enough about goodwill that they will give some advance notice so that you can prepare for it. In this case, the API was revoked with absolutely no advance warning fo…

Keep back-pedaling, you'd have supported the same actions if they were done by "the good guys" that lost control of the company.

> Why is this hard to understand without bringing your politics into it?

Pot, meet kettle.

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Post by bobleeswagger »

sixothree wrote: post #257
bobleeswagger wrote: post #13

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> Space Karen > billionaire bozo > comparisons to his Mother's death Yeah, I had a hard time getting through it. At least, I don't get the point the author is trying to make. Is this really a surprise given the direction social data has gone in the past decade or so? APIs will only remain public as long as they are useful. Elon sees an upside to making the API at twitter more private, in order to maintain control ove…

Space Karen is more than generous.

It's not about generosity, it's about substance.

There's no substance to name-calling a billionaire. The entire article is emotional drivel.

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Post by tptacek »

girvo wrote: post #262
tptacek wrote: post #140

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This notion of affiliating with specific servers with specific cultures is I think one of the first things that's going to go out the window as Mastodon/ActivityPub succeeds. It's not that hard to provision single-user instances, and the fabled moderation overhead issues are, as I understand from talking to operators, mostly a thing that follows from having lots of people in an instance following lots of other instan…

> I'll be on my own address sometime in the next month or so. As someone who's looking to do exactly that myself, what server are you thinking of running? Mastodon itself, or one of the others?

I'm watching Takahe pretty closely but I'll do Mastodon if I don't have any other choices.

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Post by soheil »

wedn3sday wrote: post #234
soheil wrote: post #151

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> Well-written Really? So if you go on a rampage of profanities and spew never ending hate and be as ugly and rude as possible that's praiseworthy? > "For You" appears as the default option No, it had been the default for several years now and every time you disabled it, it would mysteriously re-enable itself after a while. > The "For You" timeline is only for Elon No, he even complained about this feature, shadow-ba…

> "... drive enough revenue ..." Pretty clear where your values are here. Personally I quite like a system that's explicitly not being designed to drive revenue, and would like to interact with other people that also want to be in a place with a higher value then the dollar bill. Im perfectly happy to let people with your values stay on twitter away from me.

What do you think revenue does? It's a signal that something is of value to society so it can be used for growth to further increase value.
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