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Re: The Shit Show

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Post by wyclif »

mjmsmith wrote: post #153
bobleeswagger wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Space Karen > billionaire bozo > comparisons to his Mother's death Yeah, I had a hard time getting through it. At least, I don't get the point the author is trying to make. Is this really a surprise given the direction social data has gone in the past decade or so? APIs will only remain public as long as they are useful. Elon sees an upside to making the API at twitter more private, in order to maintain control ove…

The author is disappointed because API access has been removed. He's angry because it was apparently done without notice on the orders of billionaire bozo Space Karen.

Do you really think that "Space Karen" is a clever insult? It's such a boring meme. You might as well just print a "Spaceman Bad" t-shirt so that everyone knows your approach to technology is motivated by politics.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

Kwpolska wrote: post #74
ygggvbbjiuygvf wrote: post #22

It’s not even clear that they “pulled the plug”, could just be a temporary outage. Wish Musk would announce his thoughts on the future of the API, though.

Can a “temporary outage” be limited only to the most popular apps? Can a “temporary outage” affect Twitterrific for iOS but not Twitterrific for Mac [0]? [0] https://blog.iconfactory.com/2023/01/state-of-the-twitterver...

Yes, of course (if e.g. some shards but not others broke/received an updated incorrect config). In fact, it applying to some but not other versions of the same app makes it look more likely to be a bug than intentional.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by aendruk »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #103
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

What's wrong with Mastodon's UX? It's basically Twitter from ten years ago. The whole federated thing is a bit confusing but you can just use the default mastodon.social instance and not think about it.

We need a solution to this family of experiences, quickly.

> Some toots are not shown https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/3794

> Turns out, there's a lot more messages in the conversation, and Mastodon shows barely a fraction of it. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/9409

> I can only see one or two toots […] Some toots don't appear to have any replies https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14017

> you are often missing replies https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/18150

> the existing behavior is a barrier to Mastodon usage for those who are not sufficiently technical https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20533

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by vajrabum »

xupybd wrote: post #128
Ensorceled wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm defending the right to own property, which is something really fundamental to the way we organize our society. No one is trying to "steal" twitter in this thread, we are saying he used his "property rights" to unnecessarily hurt others. You're the one who is saying this is just peachy keen and "that's on you". You're defending the harm.

I feel for this guy. He worked on a product for 16 years. A lot goes into that and it becomes part of your identity. Then right at a time close to the loss of his mother it gets shutdown, with no warning. I'd be devastated. That said Elon is not doing this to anyone. He is not attacking anyone. He simply made a business decision. This happens all the time. Companies let suppliers go for financial reasons, they let st…

Just business doesn't usually lead to massive losses in an advertising revenue at an advertising business to the point Twitter is giving away ads. I'm not sure what it is but it's not just business. https://mashable.com/article/twitter-free-ads-to-advertisers...

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Post by harmmonica »

raydev wrote: post #208
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

> The "For You" timeline is only for Elon The "For You" timeline is a new name for the "Home" timeline that's been around forever. And now it's easier to get to the chronological feed ("Following"), the first actual UX improvement to the site since the acquisition.

You can‘t default to the “following” tab anymore (every time you open the app it shows “for you” by default), which likely puts it in the “for Elon” camp. Or maybe there’s an even-more-buried setting to default to “following” than tapping the old (were they?) “stars”? But definitely not good UX when users have to tap “following” every time they want to only see, ya know, who they’re actually following (aka what they’re explicitly interested in).

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by mjmsmith »

wyclif wrote: post #221
mjmsmith wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author is disappointed because API access has been removed. He's angry because it was apparently done without notice on the orders of billionaire bozo Space Karen.

Do you really think that "Space Karen" is a clever insult? It's such a boring meme. You might as well just print a "Spaceman Bad" t-shirt so that everyone knows your approach to technology is motivated by politics.

I don't have any opinion on it. I was explaining why I think the author used the language he did. Even if I did have an opinion on it, I don't think it's an insight into my politics, any more than simping for Musk would be an insight into yours.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by bentobean »

thih9 wrote: post #70

The brand is losing so much credibility among developers, I guess we'll see even fewer products with Twitter API as a core feature. I know this has been a trend for the last couple of years but this kind of lack of communication seems like a milestone.

It's not losing any credibility with this developer (to the extent that it ever had "credibility" to begin with). Just sayin'.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by wingworks »

dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #161
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

Twitter was really pretty solid for what it was, had lots of great accounts and even with the stock UI was pretty operable for me. Even advertising on Twitter was pretty fun. You could reach people all over the world at reasonable cost and get feedback on your product and messaging. Most recently I used Twitter pretty much exclusively for following the war in Ukraine, and it’s been a big loss for me—Telegram is a goo…

tbh, I haven't noticed much change on Twitter. I think for the average user it's BAU.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by xupybd »

vajrabum wrote: post #224
xupybd wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel for this guy. He worked on a product for 16 years. A lot goes into that and it becomes part of your identity. Then right at a time close to the loss of his mother it gets shutdown, with no warning. I'd be devastated. That said Elon is not doing this to anyone. He is not attacking anyone. He simply made a business decision. This happens all the time. Companies let suppliers go for financial reasons, they let st…

Just business doesn't usually lead to massive losses in an advertising revenue at an advertising business to the point Twitter is giving away ads. I'm not sure what it is but it's not just business. https://mashable.com/article/twitter-free-ads-to-advertisers...

Sure it does. Plenty of people purchase business and make choices that cause businesses to fail.

Re: The Shit Show

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Post by wyclif »

mjmsmith wrote: post #226
wyclif wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think that "Space Karen" is a clever insult? It's such a boring meme. You might as well just print a "Spaceman Bad" t-shirt so that everyone knows your approach to technology is motivated by politics.

I don't have any opinion on it. I was explaining why I think the author used the language he did. Even if I did have an opinion on it, I don't think it's an insight into my politics, any more than simping for Musk would be an insight into yours.

Ehhh. Nobody's "simping for Musk" in this thread.

You should just evaluate Twitter on its own merits. Don't worry about the fact that Elon Musk doesn't march lockstep to woke orthodoxy.

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