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Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by xenophonf »

2devnull wrote: post #12
tmtvl wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely, you can open a terminal and input a command to bypass it. It is kind of ironic, though, considering "open a terminal and input a command" is usually considered to be a take-that against GNU/Linux.

Good to know. What is the command? And what’s the shortcut to get a terminal?

Per https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/13/how-to-bypass-the-microsof..., you can type Shift-F10 to break into a command prompt during OOBE and run this command: OOBE\BYPASSNRO. Or you can try logging in with a banned email address like no@thankyou.com.

Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by techload »

reiichiroh wrote: post #8

You have to be disconnected from wifi and Ethernet to be offered the option of a local account. This was removed in 11.

If you create the bootable Windows 11 media with Rufus, it "allows to bypass the mandatory requirement for a Microsoft account on Windows 11 22H2. (NB: Network MUST be temporarily disabled for the local account creation to be proposed). Also add an option to skip all collection questions (Sets all answers to "Don't allow")".

Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by techload »

This will happen when you sign in to any Microsoft product, such as Office, Teams or Onedrive. After you input email and password, there is a window dialog with a big button to use that credential to manage the device, i.e., your computer, converting your local into an online account. And there is an option, with small text, to "use only in Microsoft applications", or words to that effect. This is easy to get caught, as everybody won't read dialog windows and rapidly click on whatever big button.

Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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jrockway wrote: post #15

This definitely happened to me a while ago. I'm not that upset about it, except that I spent some time changing all my local accounts from "jon" to "jrockway", and signing in with my email address made my local account "jon". Now when I ssh places, I have to supply -l or properly add an entry to ~/.ssh/config because this is the only account I have that's not named "jrockway". All in all, this reduces the enjoyment i…

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Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by windowsismid123 »

jrockway wrote: post #15

This definitely happened to me a while ago. I'm not that upset about it, except that I spent some time changing all my local accounts from "jon" to "jrockway", and signing in with my email address made my local account "jon". Now when I ssh places, I have to supply -l or properly add an entry to ~/.ssh/config because this is the only account I have that's not named "jrockway". All in all, this reduces the enjoyment i…

Did it switch you magically or something?

I actually don't mind the microsoft account integration but I also have a name issue. Microsoft will name my account the equivilent "jons" instead of "jsmith" but all my ssh logins are the latter.

I just make an offline account first and then change my account to a microsoft one in user settings and it seems to keep the first name.

Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by Baeocystin »

jrockway wrote: post #15

This definitely happened to me a while ago. I'm not that upset about it, except that I spent some time changing all my local accounts from "jon" to "jrockway", and signing in with my email address made my local account "jon". Now when I ssh places, I have to supply -l or properly add an entry to ~/.ssh/config because this is the only account I have that's not named "jrockway". All in all, this reduces the enjoyment i…

God, the number of panicked IT support calls I got over that particular phrasing. It was quite the month.

Re: Tell HN: Windows 10 might have tricked you into using a online account

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Post by pdpi »

jrockway wrote: post #15

This definitely happened to me a while ago. I'm not that upset about it, except that I spent some time changing all my local accounts from "jon" to "jrockway", and signing in with my email address made my local account "jon". Now when I ssh places, I have to supply -l or properly add an entry to ~/.ssh/config because this is the only account I have that's not named "jrockway". All in all, this reduces the enjoyment i…

I think the “files are where you left them” dialogue is meant to assuage the concerns of people who just did a big OS upgrade and are a bit anxious about it all.

It’s still a pretty poorly thought out dialogue, though.

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