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Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by hammock »

ogzk wrote: post #38
michaelteter wrote: post #32

For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…

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> We’ll never have public transport because

Wait, we…do…have public transport. Effective and useful public transport. In NYC 60% of people commute with it. Boston, DC, SF, Chicago, Philadelphia… You might have a specific gripe because it doesn’t take you exactly where you want to go with exactly the comfort you think you need, but these places have public transit that is good enough for hundreds of thousands or even millions to use every day

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by turtlebits »

richwater wrote: post #6
gambiting wrote: post #2

So you deliberately don't charge the battery to 100% then conclude the realistic range is shorter than advertised? I get you don't charge to 100% every day, but if you know you're going to drive further then....you do. Or just do what I do and charge to max each time, the battery is warrantied for 8 years, it's going to be fine. >>Imagine your daily commute is 115 km (e.g. Roeselare-Brussel That would be an extremely…

That's a fantastic way to crater your cars resale value.

Yes, putting a lot of miles on any car is going to affect resale value.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by philshem »

hammock wrote: post #42
michaelteter wrote: post #32

For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…

> That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road And brake dust, which includes a lot of metal

One-pedal driving does minimize the use of the brakes by using the motor to decelerate.

I can’t find an English wiki article, but here is German

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Pedal-Driving

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by msandford »

cs702 wrote: post #49

My experience with EVs (Teslas): EVERYDAY CITY DRIVING - I drive whenever I need or want, without ever worrying about range. If I notice the expected range has dipped below ~60 miles, give or take, I plug it in at home at the end of my day. I'm delighted that I never have to go to a gas station, which reeks of all that smelly/poisonous/explosive stuff. LONG TRIPS - I charge to 100% the night before, get on the road,…

I'm not sure I agree that 325mi is a long trip. I used to live in FL and you can drive more than 600mi and stay in the state. I now live in Texas where that number jumps to about 900mi. I'm sure in California it's at least 500mi.

EVs can be great if your commute is less than 30mi one way, but that doesn't make them good for road trips. At least in the US.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by mensetmanusman »

stefap2 wrote: post #21

So basically wait until the epa range of an electric car is 1600 miles. Then you may get 400 miles in cold weather comparable with an ice car.

Impossible due to laws of physics surrounding diffusion based batteries. The vehicle would be so big to accommodate the heavier and heavier battery it would not be street legal.

Green hydrogen will be an eventual solution for those use cases.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by r_hoods_ghost »

ogzk wrote: post #38
michaelteter wrote: post #32

For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…

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If you look outside of the USA lots of cities have good public transport systems that aren't plagued by poverty, crime, homelessness and mental illness. Just because Americans have decided to optimize their society to maximize misery of a minority for the benefit of an even smaller minority doesn't make it necessary.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by turtlebits »

I charge my Bolt EV to 100% every day. Most manufacturers provide some headroom so rated capacity is less than actual and you aren't hitting 100% SOC, just what the car reports.

What the OP also omits is that you gain range during fair weather. My Bolt EPA rating is 255 miles, but I've gotten 303 miles in the summer and as low as 191 in the winter.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by mateo- »

xwdv wrote: post #27
limitedsupply wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP and drive a Tesla. Charging stations are pretty large at least where I live. 10–15 chargers minimum and the Tesla nav system tells you in advance how many are available to use.

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Personally I've never run into this but -- a long queue would be fine, the car doesn't eat up much electricity idling. As for charger status, I mostly use the Electrify America app for finding a charging station (i get 2 years free with my car) and it's good for showing charger count and availability. So, if a charger was out of commission, it would just show 3/4 available.

Google maps will actually show similar availability of various other company stations.

Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle

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Post by pforret »

limitedsupply wrote: post #26
stefap2 wrote: post #21

So basically wait until the epa range of an electric car is 1600 miles. Then you may get 400 miles in cold weather comparable with an ice car.

Or just read the article and realize that the author doesn’t fully charge their car?..

Tesla advises 90% max, other sources advise charging to 80% to save battery performance. I use 80% for day-to-day, 90% for longer day trips, 100% for international travel. [tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/faq](https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/faq)
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