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Not OP and drive a Tesla. Charging stations are pretty large at least where I live. 10–15 chargers minimum and the Tesla nav system tells you in advance how many are available to use.
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Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle
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#42For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…
> That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road
And brake dust, which includes a lot of metal
Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle
#43For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…
> That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road I hear this a lot, but how much pollution is it really? It surely doesn't register on any municipal particulate measurement station.
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#45For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…
> That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road And brake dust, which includes a lot of metal
EVs make substantially less of that, due to regenerative braking.
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> Why do Americans care so much about resale instead of just using the stuff you bought? I expect that you throw your old car away whenever you get a new one?
Many of us do, yes. Drive it until it’s primary worth is scrap.
But that doesn't make a very good mobile status symbol.
Re: Realistic daily range of an electric vehicle
#47For occasional commutes, 115km one way is ok (not for me, but it's not unthinkable). But 115km each way (230km round trip) 5 days per week is a problem. We should not be doing this, at least not in individual cars. That electric car is still creating a lot of particulate pollution from the tires on the road, not to mention its contribution to general traffic. The focus should be on how to reduce the commute distance…
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#48Despite the provocative headline, it's not a bad rule of thumb.
But at least in the US, pretty much any new EV you can buy has a rated range of 200 miles or more. More than 100 miles of commuting per day is a lot! Also, workplace charging is becoming more of a thing, and would effectively double your range without any additional inconvenience.
Ironically, the inefficiency of ICEV engines is what makes them less variable in their range. First, you get heating for free because the engine produces an abundance of excess heat. Second, since the engines are at best 30% efficient, the effect of things like drag and grade are far less noticeable in terms of fuel consumption.
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#49My experience with EVs (Teslas):
EVERYDAY CITY DRIVING - I drive whenever I need or want, without ever worrying about range. If I notice the expected range has dipped below ~60 miles, give or take, I plug it in at home at the end of my day. I'm delighted that I never have to go to a gas station, which reeks of all that smelly/poisonous/explosive stuff.
LONG TRIPS - I charge to 100% the night before, get on the road, and stop to charge only if/when the software tells me I should. The longest trip I've taken is ~325 miles, and it requires only one 15-20 minute stop to get 150+ miles of range at a supercharger (I grab a snack and go to the bathroom). Whenever possible, I try to stay in/go to places with destination charging, so I can plug the EV and find it fully charged by next morning.
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The Tesla notifies you that you will be shortening the life of the battery if you regularly charge to 100.
The author assumes that all EVs behave like Teslas. Other car manufacturers are aiming for simpler UI, and the charging system itself is meant to deal with the oddities of deciding exactly how much to charge the car to. For instance the often don't show a charge percentage but an estimated range with bounds. I apologize for not bringing a link but there is a beautiful story of real world range that shows that Teslas…
It doesn't matter if the 80/90% charging is hidden in the UI or not. The EPA uses a 100% -> 0% range, and all vendors use this range in their marketing material.Of course they do, because people compare product sheets when choosing.
The actual range you will use day-to-day is way less. That's what I wanted to point out.