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Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by annyeonghada »

Kamq wrote: post #201
cpsns wrote: post #185

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> If you're lucky enough to be able to spend copious amounts of time online, good for you. I am not the lucky one, you are. My life is a sick joke, meanwhile you by all traditional measures have it made if you have all that. If I didn't have my job I'd have literally nothing going for me. When I say this has cost me oppertunites I don't mean small ones, I mean even things like potential relationships. Everything has…

> by all traditional measures Is there a reason to assume the traditional measures are, in fact, the correct ones to be using?

Maybe the fact that they were used by seemingly very different society for thousand of years and society who did enforce them were more stable and successful? The hubris of modern people to think they are so enlightened they can engineer society to fit they ideological views as if humans were mere economical units.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by noodleman »

serial_dev wrote: post #272
gernb wrote: post #200

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I spend was too much time on the internet too like right now checking hn but for me I chalk it up to lack of other things to do. I don't have a lot of friends, it's hard to make new ones, covid doesn't help, at the moment I've got no personal projects except maybe trying new recipes now and then. that said, if I do find other activities I have no trouble doing them. I'm taking a class for example, meet the friends I…

> I chalk it up to lack of other things to do In my case, I don't have other things to do because I'm on the internet. When I manage to turn off the internet (HN, Youtube, podcasts, Twitter, LinkedIn, reading up on random, pretty useless stuff), suddenly I get pretty good ideas on what to do. Oh, I wanted to learn finally that language. I wanted to clean up in the kitchen cabinet. I wanted to meet up with a friend. I…

Social media gives you that dopamine fix quicker than your other options. It quickly becomes a habit if you've been doing it for long enough.

I'm sure if you tried to make doing other things a habit, it would come easier to you over time. Then there's less reliance on willpower required.

If you put a block in the calendar at the same time each week, you will feel more obligated to do it.

I've done this with all kinds of things like socialising, couch25k, flossing. It really helped me when covid restrictions first hit and it was too easy to just lay about all day.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by cpsns »

vonseel wrote: post #352
cpsns wrote: post #181

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No, that's impossible. I live in a Canadian province where the provincial healthcare situation is very, very bad. There are no private doctors and private psychiatrists are not legally allowed to perscribe. ADHD medication is controlled so only NPs, GPs, and (I think) psychologists are permitted to write a script for it. Basically there are no options for me except the ones I have already taken, short of moving to a…

Can they prescribe non-stimulant ADHD medications? I imagine those are less-strictly regulated. My previous psychiatrist said he's had some luck with patients on stimulants lowering their stimulant doses and adding a non-stimulant treatment like Strattera, but his patients rarely had success stopping all stimulants and taking only Strattera. That's just one docs opinion, but having been treated for adhd for 15 years,…

> So, consider yourself lucky you don't already need stimulants to get by.

I wish that were the case, I've been heavily "abusing" Redbull and Claritan-D (non-drowsey with sudafed, I found this helped purely by accident a few years ago) for years just so I can barely function enough to hold down a job. It's probably part of why my blood pressure is so bad in the first place.

I have to put literally all the energy I have into work, by the time 1700 rolls around I have no energy left to give for anything, I just crash. Most nights even getting supper is a huge ordeal, much less anything else.

Non-stimulant drugs might be an viable option, I haven't inquired about that yet, but I intend too.

I apreciate you giving a small window into what the medication has been like for you. How it would affect me and how I'd change on it has been one of my main concerns should I somehow actually get perscribed anything. At this point I'd try anything because the older I get the less sustainable this all becomes.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by mindslight »

escapedmoose wrote: post #337
mindslight wrote: post #334

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I was trying to head off a response of why the advice to get out and do something out of one's groove is impossible. Myself, I would include "family, economic, and social conditions" within the general category of "depression", rather than reserving that label for "purely chemical" problems. Internal and external factors tend to pile up and reinforce one another, and if someone is at a point where those external fact…

Valid points, but you’d do well not to refer to that state as “depression.” Depression is a particular pathology and most people are going to interpret it in regards to the medical/chemical circumstance rather than what you’re describing.

Siloing the concepts seems like a bad idea. Let's say someone has bad life circumstances, bad reinforcing patterns of behavior, plus a chemical imbalance in their brain. If they seek medical help for "depression", should treatment focus on the chemical imbalance? It could be that chemical imbalance is entirely due to their life circumstances, and addressing those would be much more appropriate than medicating them.

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Post by everforward »

_gabe_ wrote: post #120
ryandrake wrote: post #64

People are (and should be) questioning the use of the word addiction. One of the components of addiction is: is it causing a harmful, unwanted effect on one's life? OP laid out his: > I've been struggling with my mental health during the summertime, a time I traditionally have fewer problems. I wasn't recharging like I should. I was waking up tired, napping during the day, and generally not feeling at all prepared wh…

> People are (and should be) questioning the use of the word addiction. One of the components of addiction is: is it causing a harmful, unwanted effect on one's life? Meriam Webster's second definition doesn't mention causing harm: > a strong inclination to do, use, or indulge in something repeatedly So, according to the way people typically use the word "addiction" and the literal dictionary definition of the word,…

That second definition is likely derived from colloquial usage. The closest parallel diagnosis from DSM is probably Internet Gaming Addiction, which does require harm or unwanted effects.

The colloquial definitions get silly. The second definition for "literally" is "not literally".

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Post by kerpotgh »

mancerayder wrote: post #165
oramit wrote: post #164

While the author compares his problem to Alcohol addiction I was struck by the sentence: "It's gotten to the point where I don't really enjoy the video as much as the numb hypnotic state from consuming that much content." This to me matches up most with gambling addiction. There is a great book on the subject that I recommend to the Author called "Addiction by Design" by Natasha Schull. The main thrust of her argumen…

>This to me matches up most with gambling addiction. There is a great book on the subject that I recommend to the Author called "Addiction by Design" by Natasha Schull. The main thrust of her argument is that machine gambling addicts don't care about winning at all but have found gambling machines (slots, video poker mostly) as a reliable way to activate that "flow" state where the rest of the world falls away. Maybe…

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Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by escapedmoose »

mindslight wrote: post #386
escapedmoose wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Valid points, but you’d do well not to refer to that state as “depression.” Depression is a particular pathology and most people are going to interpret it in regards to the medical/chemical circumstance rather than what you’re describing.

Siloing the concepts seems like a bad idea. Let's say someone has bad life circumstances, bad reinforcing patterns of behavior, plus a chemical imbalance in their brain. If they seek medical help for "depression", should treatment focus on the chemical imbalance? It could be that chemical imbalance is entirely due to their life circumstances, and addressing those would be much more appropriate than medicating them.

Treatment should focus on both. That doesn’t mean that bad life circumstances are depression though; rather they can be a factor contributing to depression.

If you went to a doctor for type 2 diabetes, they would tell you to eat healthier and exercise as well as to take medications when needed. Your eating and activity habits are not themselves diabetes, even though they contribute directly to your diabetes. Another person could act exactly the same but not trigger diabetes because of lower genetic predisposition. And another person could have a healthier lifestyle than you and have diabetes despite that (e.g. Type 1). Lifestyle is a contributor while diabetes is the pathology.

Life circumstances can be a contributor, but depression is a pathology. An effective healthcare team will treat both.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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Post by layer8 »

nicbou wrote: post #362
layer8 wrote: post #48

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You can mark suggested videos as "Not interested".

If it worked I wouldn't see family guy video recommendations by now

It works for specific videos being presented repeatedly, which I believe was the complaint here. There’s also “Don’t recommend channel”.
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