Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
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Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
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Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#2Have I misunderstood your source?.. But when your first line of your README says that it depends on Mootools, which is shipping at like 40kb~, doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of having a line count?
Heck, here is a modal dialog in one line.
var d = new dojo.Dialog({ title: "Pretty Awesome huh?", content: "And in just one line" }).show();
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#3I like what you did here. It's common for new developers to rely heavily on complicated Lightbox scripts, because it seems daunting to implement one on their own.
Your script would be good for a beginner to review. It covers the 80% case.
You don't say anything about mobile support or browser support, a note on that might be helpful to add.
I've got to say though, the underscores (while more readable) are not the "house style" for JavaScript (at least, not the native functions of the language), where everyThingIsCamelCase.
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#4Have I misunderstood your source?.. But when your first line of your README says that it depends on Mootools, which is shipping at like 40kb~, doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of having a line count? Heck, here is a modal dialog in one line. var d = new dojo.Dialog({ title: "Pretty Awesome huh?", content: "And in just one line" }).show();
Yeah, I did mention the line count in the title but the real point is that it doesn’t come with extra features that you’ll have to customize anyway. For example, there are a million ways to present next and previous buttons when you’re showing a group of dialogs, and if you want to use a different way than the one your library comes with, it’s going to be frustrating. I looked at five or six different libraries before deciding that just putting buttons where required in the DOM and attaching onclick handlers would be a lot easier (see the third example).
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#5I like what you did here. It's common for new developers to rely heavily on complicated Lightbox scripts, because it seems daunting to implement one on their own. Your script would be good for a beginner to review. It covers the 80% case. You don't say anything about mobile support or browser support, a note on that might be helpful to add. I've got to say though, the underscores (while more readable) are not the "ho…
He is still relying on Mootools which is around 40kB in size.
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#6Have I misunderstood your source?.. But when your first line of your README says that it depends on Mootools, which is shipping at like 40kb~, doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of having a line count? Heck, here is a modal dialog in one line. var d = new dojo.Dialog({ title: "Pretty Awesome huh?", content: "And in just one line" }).show();
Yeah, I did mention the line count in the title but the real point is that it doesn’t come with extra features that you’ll have to customize anyway. For example, there are a million ways to present next and previous buttons when you’re showing a group of dialogs, and if you want to use a different way than the one your library comes with, it’s going to be frustrating. I looked at five or six different libraries befor…
I don't really understand what's the point of using your 75 line script for creating modal dialogs instead of the one line solution mentioned by chrisacky.
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I did mention the line count in the title but the real point is that it doesn’t come with extra features that you’ll have to customize anyway. For example, there are a million ways to present next and previous buttons when you’re showing a group of dialogs, and if you want to use a different way than the one your library comes with, it’s going to be frustrating. I looked at five or six different libraries befor…
I don't really understand what's the point of using your 75 line script for creating modal dialogs instead of the one line solution mentioned by chrisacky.
If you're not trolling, can you show me how to reproduce my third example in one line?
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
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Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#9I wish more "library" would be written that way. I.e. make the 80% use case as simple and clear as possible, and let the programmer change it if needed.. instead of providing hundreds of useless configuration (knowing exactly that you'll encounter a case where you'll have to hack your way in the code anyway because it wasn't part of the "configuration").
I'm not bitching in any way on the existing jQuery plugins. I used (and keep using them) again and over again.. but for good javascript developers, simple plugins easily hackable is most often than not the easiest way to get the thing done.
For instance, Django provides a good authentication system.. and then lot of different ways to customize it. It's good.. but it happened to me lots of time to hack my own solution as what I wanted to do wasn't part of their initial "configuration" thingy. Some django plugins were created for that, but then again, they were hard to hack as 80% of the code base was to handle all the possible "configurations". So, basically, sometime the easiest way to get something done is just to find a snippet of code that does the minimum and code the missing part.. instead of using a huge plugin that does everything but still need to be hacked (Which is way harder the more the plugin is complex).
Re: Show HN: Veneer, modal dialogs in 75 lines of JavaScript
#10We've worked with ColorBox (http://jacklmoore.com/colorbox/) for the past couple years and it does the job well, just have to clean up the IE6 cruft.
3rd example would be just
$('.stuff').colorbox({ rel: 'stuff' })