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That's crazy. Where do you live? In Poland I just skipped the insurance system to get ADHD meds and went to a psychiatrist specialising in ADHD privately - $70 for a 20 minute visit seems a bit steep but it's better than waiting years. Could you possibly do something similar?

No, that's impossible. I live in a Canadian province where the provincial healthcare situation is very, very bad. There are no private doctors and private psychiatrists are not legally allowed to perscribe. ADHD medication is controlled so only NPs, GPs, and (I think) psychologists are permitted to write a script for it. Basically there are no options for me except the ones I have already taken, short of moving to a…

Can they prescribe non-stimulant ADHD medications? I imagine those are less-strictly regulated.

My previous psychiatrist said he's had some luck with patients on stimulants lowering their stimulant doses and adding a non-stimulant treatment like Strattera, but his patients rarely had success stopping all stimulants and taking only Strattera. That's just one docs opinion, but having been treated for adhd for 15 years, it doesn't surprise me.

So, consider yourself lucky you don't already need stimulants to get by. Some of the newer non-stimulant options may be effective for you, and you won't have to deal with the "druggy" aspect of being on stimulants for work. Stimulants can seriously affect your life, both positively and negatively. You might be able to get things done that you never would have done before - I felt like I was finally able to compete at a normal level when I started - but you might retreat from society at the same time, be less interested in spending time with loved ones or building relationships, and then there's all the short-term side-effects like trouble sleeping or losing interest in eating.

Basically my experience has been a double-edged sword and it's bittersweet. For every way that it's benefited me, ADHD meds negatively affect me in some other way and it's hard to quantify the net balance.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's crazy. Where do you live? In Poland I just skipped the insurance system to get ADHD meds and went to a psychiatrist specialising in ADHD privately - $70 for a 20 minute visit seems a bit steep but it's better than waiting years. Could you possibly do something similar?

No, that's impossible. I live in a Canadian province where the provincial healthcare situation is very, very bad. There are no private doctors and private psychiatrists are not legally allowed to perscribe. ADHD medication is controlled so only NPs, GPs, and (I think) psychologists are permitted to write a script for it. Basically there are no options for me except the ones I have already taken, short of moving to a…

Medical tourism is an option too, I think. If you visited a doctor in another country, and obtained a prescription, you'd be allowed to bring it with you back to Canada, right?

Re: YouTube Addiction

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If you're intent on getting off the internet, Gabor has several books worth reading. One trouble with his writing and speaking on the subject isn't that I think he's wrong or does a bad job at all, but like anything in psychology, you aren't going to read it and "get there", so to speak. What Gabor describes is often years of critical reflection away from fully making sense. I guess from my perspective I don't get th…

I guess you can say I just haven't reflected enough but I really have a hard time with the whole branch of thinking that blames all our patterns and activities on some hidden childhood trauma, and more generally with the obsession over finding the "original sin" cause for the patterns. It just feels like a cop out to have an explanation to something one can't deal with as if we have to blame the universe for our natu…

> original sin

You’re not wrong, this kind of thinking can actually be a diversion from solving problems. I mean, if you can blame things you don’t necessarily remember and perhaps even your parents, there might be some sense that you can pass the buck and therefor responsibility for getting better or doing better.

At the same time, I think the idea isn’t necessarily that some huge traumatic thing had to occur. In fact it could have been fairly innocuous or mild. What people do though, sometimes, is reiterate certain events to such a degree that their psychological response and the neurological pathways it follows become excessively worn in. Those pathways become easier to follow and more likely to be followed. Getting anxious about this, feeling stupid about that, feeling shame about that. The more it happens, the easier it is to feel it.

It isn’t so much that we blame a single event and move on, but that we try to understand the source of various developments. Try to understand what experiences informed certain behaviours.

At the end of the day, whether you were 6, 16, or 26, any event which shaped you is still your responsibility to address in this current moment. There’s no blame to pass or responsibility to offload. We can’t blame the universe for our nature because if we’re unhappy with the way we are, we’re still the only ones who can do something about it. Whether it was caused by childhood trauma or aliens. The end result is your personal accountability in every moment.

There does seem to be credibility to the idea of minor traumas being very influential during formative years. It doesn’t have to have happened to all of us of course, but as children we do internalize things like crazy. One major theme I see is when caregivers are present but emotionally unavailable. When kids are isolated in this way, it seems very benign on the outside yet also seems to be able to cause major issues in kids early on and late into their lives. It becomes much less common to be influenced by experiences in the same way by the time we hit puberty, for example. We internalize much less and confront things we’re uncomfortable with, if not with peers or family then with ourselves. In our formative years we simply lack that ability.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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post #181

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No, that's impossible. I live in a Canadian province where the provincial healthcare situation is very, very bad. There are no private doctors and private psychiatrists are not legally allowed to perscribe. ADHD medication is controlled so only NPs, GPs, and (I think) psychologists are permitted to write a script for it. Basically there are no options for me except the ones I have already taken, short of moving to a…

Medical tourism is an option too, I think. If you visited a doctor in another country, and obtained a prescription, you'd be allowed to bring it with you back to Canada, right?

> you'd be allowed to bring it with you back to Canada, right?

You’d never be able to get a foreign prescription filled in Canada, federal and provincial regulations forbid that. Brining medicine back would be fine, but then you can’t get more without an expensive flight again.

If I lived near the US border I’d just get an American doctor and get prescriptions filled in America, but I’m nowhere even remotely close to the border.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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post #181

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No, that's impossible. I live in a Canadian province where the provincial healthcare situation is very, very bad. There are no private doctors and private psychiatrists are not legally allowed to perscribe. ADHD medication is controlled so only NPs, GPs, and (I think) psychologists are permitted to write a script for it. Basically there are no options for me except the ones I have already taken, short of moving to a…

Medical tourism is an option too, I think. If you visited a doctor in another country, and obtained a prescription, you'd be allowed to bring it with you back to Canada, right?

You may need special permits to move scheduled substances across borders. ADHD meds can even be problematic between EU states.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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I am seriously addicted to the internet in general and while it may not be an addiction in the physical sense, it has caused major issues in my life. The amount of time I spend on the Internet is insane and no matter how hard I try to will power through it and cut down my usage I always fail. If I ever figure out how to overcome it I'll have to write a book or something, because I've wasted years of my life and misse…

You sound like you satisfy at least one of the two usual criteria for addiction in the sense 12-step programs use the term. If you ever want someone to show you a program that might help you recover, just reply with your contact info and I’d be happy to help

Re: YouTube Addiction

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I am seriously addicted to the internet in general and while it may not be an addiction in the physical sense, it has caused major issues in my life. The amount of time I spend on the Internet is insane and no matter how hard I try to will power through it and cut down my usage I always fail. If I ever figure out how to overcome it I'll have to write a book or something, because I've wasted years of my life and misse…

I haven't overcome it, but I got better.

Blocking distracting page elements like I block ads (uBlock Origin), and occasionally blocking websites altogether (SelfControl.app) when needed makes a big difference.

Leaving the cellphone out of the bedroom was another important improvement.

I also added rules to remove pagination buttons from reddit and HN.

At some point you hit diminishing returns because you still seek out these websites. The hard part is closing the computer when you are done computing, and tackling boredom with other means. I have no solution for this, except working in one hour increments with timers.

Re: YouTube Addiction

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I used to be addicted to youtube, and the most effective method I found to limiting my consumption was using an extension called Unhook. It removes all recommendations and the shorts and trending tabs, so the only videos I can watch are those from channels I'm subscribed to, or videos that I search for.

I really wish there were options like this for mobile (iPhone specifically). Most of my YouTube browsing is done on mobile or chromecasted. I go through phases of deleting the app, which works really well, but then I’m not able to chromecast for the odd time I want to watch the occasional video with my partner. I’d also still like to be aware of when videos from certain creators come out, so deleting the app just cut…

I use the mobile website in Firefox for Android

Re: YouTube Addiction

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Been there - still am. self-control ( https://selfcontrolapp.com/ ) is the nuclear tool in my anti-scrolling arsenal. If you figure out how to get around it please do not tell me - it's the best thing I've found for completely shutting myself out of youtube (and chess websites - bullet chess is a similar drug for me). Disclosure - I'm full time working on software that arms people with better tools for fighting compu…

I think it's incredibly misguided and crass to plug websites and apps in a discussion about people sharing struggles with addiction to websites and apps.

They are tools. Just because they use the same medium doesn't mean that they are the same thing.

OP has a problem with junk food. The person above mentioned fruits.

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