The readme says:
- Detects and rips _non digitally silent_ [Hidden Track One Audio](http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA) (HTOA)
It's unclear how this is used -- is it for secret data or is it for hidden music?
Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping
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#182That's a nice package. I use some of the components on the command line to get my CD data to the music server. Extract data to wav: cdparanoia -B Compress all wavs to mp3 (in parallel, takes like 1 second, crazy!): parallel lame --preset extreme {} -o {.}.mp3 ::: *.wav Clean up folder rm *.wav Import into mopidy library and lookup/apply metadata with beets beet import . sudo su - mopidy -s /bin/bash -c 'mopidy --conf…
But the whole point of software like whipper or EAC is that they crosscheck your rips with an online DB of rips (and you know , when your rip's checksum match, that it's 100% correct because there's no way you and x other people would have read the same wrong rip, misreading the exact same errors). As I understand it cdparanoia does not such check. It's "paranoid" by its own but you're not verifying that your rip is…
Ok that's a good argument. I downloaded whipper and tried it out on a few CDs. So far so good. Flac and exact copies, here I come!
Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping
#183The readme says: - Detects and rips _non digitally silent_ [Hidden Track One Audio]( http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA ) (HTOA) It's unclear how this is used -- is it for secret data or is it for hidden music?
Hidden music. Some albums[1] have hidden tracks.[2]
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_albums_with_tracks_hid... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_track
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Years ago, I had most of my music ripped to AAC in iTunes, easily accessible, browsable, and shuffleable. I now rip each of my CDs to a single FLAC and cue sheet (using XLD on Mac), on the theory that it's the most accurate way to archive a disc. However, I haven't found anything that offers the same accessibility to such a collection as iTunes did. I look through folders, and drag a few cue sheets at a time into Foo…
I use Roon and love love love it https://roonlabs.com/
There are dozens of us
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just in case anyone was wondering, EAC works without a hitch with WINE on Linux.
It’s also the only tool that private torrent trackers will accept. It’s been rigorously tested and accepted to be pretty much perfect, complete software.
Orpheus will rate appropriate XLD and whipper logs as 100% fwiw
Also I could be wrong, but don't most trackers still accept rips that they consider inferior, but then they could be trumped by someone else that made an EAC rip?
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#186Good for personal use, but in the scene you must use a recent enough version of EAC or XLD.
Orpheus allows whipper and gives it the same rating as EAC and XLD when the cache is defeated fwiw
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#187Somewhat related question: what's the gold standard for organizing ripped music, ideally with some sort of metadata lookup? Ever since Google Music shut down, I have my exported music in a folder, but it's badly organized and with duplicates. Too daunting a task for me to do manually - especially because some of the id3 tags somehow got messed up.
That will be a contentious subject, there really is no golden standard. I subscribe to The QF Bible personally, and I have configured Picard as such (feel free to ask how if you're interested)
https://musichoarders.xyz/reference/bibles/the-qf-bible/
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#188Whipper is great and I use it to backup my audio CDs in FLAC format. There's a plugin called whipper-plugin-eaclogger which will generate the logs in a format compatible with EAC. Then just run whipper with: `whipper cd rip -L eac`
That won't create a file that will make it pass the logcheck, just so you know.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Oink before it. But the torch has been passed to the next community, not all has been lost
While not all has been lost, I strongly feel that every time the community migrates from one platform to another, the long tail of small time users gets cut off. Ties are severed, people fall out of reach, etc. I initially joined a few sites that popped up after What, but since I didn't find any of the users there that I used to talk to regularly, I don't visit much ever anymore.
Not only that, it’s almost a certainty that not every little rarity alike to ‘bootleg of local ska band from the 80s that never released an album’ makes the jump each time.
Of course, those are mostly oddities that virtually no one cares about in a sonic sense, but it’s still a piece of musical history.
Kind of makes me wish whoever sued what.cd offered them a sort of clemency deal: keep the site up until everything has been archived by a legit third party (that wouldn’t share it, but so everything has at least been preserved), then shut it down.
Instead they burned down the musical library of Alexandria..
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Years ago, I had most of my music ripped to AAC in iTunes, easily accessible, browsable, and shuffleable. I now rip each of my CDs to a single FLAC and cue sheet (using XLD on Mac), on the theory that it's the most accurate way to archive a disc. However, I haven't found anything that offers the same accessibility to such a collection as iTunes did. I look through folders, and drag a few cue sheets at a time into Foo…
"... on the theory that it's the most accurate way to archive a disc ..." I won't argue with this but I think there needs to be a qualifier - the most accurate way to archive a disc while using compression ... Given that an audio cd is encoded in WAV/PCM and we have a WAV file specification, I think ripping to a WAV file remains the gold standard: "... digital audio extraction software can be used to read CD-DA audio…
An audio CD can be done in a way that your wav will not represent the full data on the disc. If you want an exact copy, you need to do a disc image with preserve empty space or something similar. The CD can contain both audio tracks and data tracks. Some audio tracks can be hidden from normal play and a ripper might miss those too.
So if you really want to save an exact copy of the CD, you will have to find something better than wav to save the data. There are a few programs that can do an image to ISO format, that might be what you want. I guess it's a bit harder to find a player that can handle the audio tracks from an ISO though.
(Memory is a bit vague on formats and names but this is the general idea.)