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Post by nier »

nhtsamera wrote: post #291
counttheforks wrote: post #227

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Another point to show what Apple's true goal is: To kill general computing. If you buy an iPhone you should be able to run whatever app you want on it. But no, Apple knows best and will not permit you to do anything it doesn't approve of. As for the APIs being copyrightable see Google vs Oracle.

You shouldn't even need to run an "app". A phone is no different from a laptop, except that it is smaller and the mouse/keyboard are part of the screen. On my phone, I should be able to: * Open an IDE and write some code. * Compile my code (depending on the language). * Run my code. The whole concept of "app stores" is absurd. In 10 years, will we be denied sudo rights on our laptops? Will we need to pay a 30% cut to…

In ten years everything will be the same because Andreas Wendker told us that Macs will stay Macs the way we know and love them. He’s neither in marketing nor in sales but an engineer so obviously what he says must be the truth, to put it sarcastically.

«Macs will stay Macs the way you know and love them. They will run the same powerful Pro apps. They will offer the same developer APIs Macs have today. They will let users create multiple volumes on disks with different operating system versions and they will let users boot from external drives. They will support drivers for peripherals and they will be amazing UNIX machines for developers and the scientific community that can run any software they like.»

Source: https://scriptingosx.com/2020/06/macos-11/

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Post by rsynnott »

riffic wrote: post #349
tr3ntg wrote: post #304

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I really enjoyed using App.net for the brief time it flourished.

there have been a handful of App.nets created in the last couple of months (Post, Spoutible, Hive, T2, et cetera). they'll all probably suffer the same fate too. This wikipedia list will be there for them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_network...

The proper term is, of course, Apps.net.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by rsynnott »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #390
rsynnott wrote: post #240

It's worth noting that we've been here before; back in 2012 Twitter attempted to curtail third party clients (albeit in a far more organised, less haphazard way): https://thenextweb.com/news/twitter-4 Eventually, they stepped back from the brink, presumably after realising that it was a phenomenally stupid idea (while the fraction of Twitter users using third party clients is likely small, anyone who's anyone uses a…

I wouldn't be surprised if Elon blocks access to apps like Tweetbot since they don't serve ads and therefore provide no revenue to Twitter (and users are unlikely to quit Twitter altogether because of it). An alternative route would be to allow third-party apps as one of the "features" of a paid Twitter account--that actually makes some sense. In fact, I'd be surprised if Musk didn't do something like this. In 2012 T…

I already gave up after the jounopurge (well, I returned for one final poorly-received joke after mentioning prehistoric elephant-like things became thoughtcrime), but if I hadn’t left for ethical reasons, I’d be gone now; I’ve been using Tweetbot for about a decade and find the official web and mobile client borderline unusable.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by 93po »

dgdosen wrote: post #416
93po wrote: post #366

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Sure, no news in any official capacity if you ignore https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety https://twitter.com/TwitterMktgJP https://twitter.com/TwitterMktgUK https://twitter.com/TwitterMktgKR https://twitter.com/TwitterEng https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport https://twitter.com/TwitterBusiness https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes https://twitter.com/TwitterMktgDACH https://twitter.com/Policy https://twitter.com/twitter I d…

So what is Twitter's response to the issue? Surely one of those accounts has addressed it... I can't seem to find it.

Moving the goalpost.

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Post by wut42 »

plushpuffin wrote: post #417
wut42 wrote: post #408

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What do you mean by "reload" ? I just tried on iOS to "exit" the app (swipe up in task manager), restart the app: it kept showing me the chronological timeline, like I picked last time. Also- this random behavior is totally different on my couple of alts on the same iOS app.

Well, your behavior differs from mine, then. When I quit and reopen the app, or choose one of my custom lists and then tap home, it switches to For You.

I have had the exact same discussion as we're having now many times since Twitter released the For You timeline. Never managed to pin-point to a specific behavior, everyone seems to get a different one.

Not surprised than Elon's Twitter's isn't better. In one hand I welcome their revert to tabs for "For you / Timeline", at least, it's easy to know you aren't reading the correct timeline…

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Post by swyx »

btdmaster wrote: post #422

Nitter[0][1] (which does not use the official API) still works. [0] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter [1] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances

how exactly does it get around not using the official API? it scrapes?

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Post by rlt »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #310
rvnx wrote: post #265

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SpaceX is a great company, worth investing into, because of their ISP + phone telco business (lot of people are ready to pay a high price for that) and a very difficult space technology to reproduce, nobody is going to compete soon. Twitter is different, it's more like MySpace.

StarLink isn’t profitable, so that’s the kiss of death in a down market. Doesn’t matter how good the product is or how much people will pay if the replacement satellites to keep it running cost more.

Starlink is likely roughly break even launching on Falcon 9. The latest $137B valuation is likely predicated on Starship working as expected.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

kmeisthax wrote: post #282
counttheforks wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another point to show what Apple's true goal is: To kill general computing. If you buy an iPhone you should be able to run whatever app you want on it. But no, Apple knows best and will not permit you to do anything it doesn't approve of. As for the APIs being copyrightable see Google vs Oracle.

Apple's goal was to kill malware, not general-purpose computing[0] as a whole. Unfortunately it turns out that killing general-purpose computing is an instrumental goal[1] to killing malware: if you want a phone that cannot get a virus then you need someone pre-approving every line of code that hits the processor. Once you have any entity having control over your device, even if it is for your own benefit and you com…

Malware/app security is always the excuse when it comes to app stores, though.

But there's no excuse that their OS can't sandbox apps as best it can to prevent issues like this. Sure there will still be scam apps, but it should be a lot easier to install apps from outside of an app store.

It's just a blatant money grab otherwise; Spotify for example is extremely trusted and unlikely to be malware - why can't they have an "install" button on their site to install their app? Because companies that run the app stores want a cut.

Why aren't mobile OS' more like desktop OS'? Everyone acts like it's about security but then we get things like Pegasus and Google's Project Zero which is constantly finding stuff anyway.

Even now the granularity on permissions and the main problem of user apathy towards this stuff are solvable. I'm on Android and I still don't understand why an app can only ask for gallery permission/access to all files and why I'm not able to only grant it read access to a particular folder in a streamlined way.

All of this stuff should be designed around a user's intentions.

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Post by ponow »

manholio wrote: post #98
ponow wrote: post #84

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People choose to use social media, as they choose all media. People are individually responsible for the physical actions they make, even if a little bird told them what to do. It may be easier to control people by limiting what thoughts they're exposed to, but a people isn't free if that's done.

It's all fun and games until you are slain in the street because people chose to regard you as subhuman after a little bird told them so. Disseminating politically extreme misinformation kills people - look no further than Russia, where a state run propaganda campaign has made people no more stupid or immoral than you or me support a vicious war of aggression against their neighbors.

No, the killer kills physically. Being told to is no excuse.
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