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NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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Re: NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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Clouds form that quickly?

I've never seen one form out of clear air that quickly, as the pilot said local conditions were. I have flown a high performance jet alongside a rising cumulus and "raced" a column forming on the side that was rising quickly - it won, as in I ran out of climb capability before it did.

Re: NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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Before anyone Monday-morning quarterbacks this - no, there wouldn't have been anything the pilot flying could feasibly have done to avert this outcome in the "one to three seconds" between becoming aware of the updraft and entering it.

Even if it were possible to turn sharply enough to avoid the column of rising air, a maneuver that hard would very likely cause as much havoc in the cabin as occurred in the actual event - as a passenger returning from the lav, for example, being thrown across the cabin would likely not be preferable to being thrown into the ceiling, and maybe less so because at least there's no one else to hit on the way to the ceiling. Leaving that aside, even making the attempt might be more dangerous than not, since if they'd tried to evade and failed, it would mean entering the updraft in a relatively unstable configuration and maybe stalling a wing.

Re: NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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When they tell you to try to keep your seatbelts on at all times they are not kidding. I am sure some of the injuries were people like the quoted woman, people that had to take off their seatbelts to move around the cabin, but probably some of them were people that just unbuckled their seatbelts to feel more comfortable.

Re: NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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Having had a similar experience over the alps on air italia, this is why I never ever undo my belt unless I have to. The sign went on and 5 seconds later I felt myself physically leave the seat as we hit the worst turbulence I had ever felt.

I rediscovered my appreciation for the rosary that day.

Re: NTSB: Cloud shot up vertically in front of plane before turbulence

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Turbulence happens, and it’s often not possible to see it coming. Air is transparent after all. I’ve never been on a flight in the US where the preflight safety briefing didn’t say that seat belts should remain fastened when you’re in your seat. But I’ve also never been on one where i haven’t observed people being pretty damn casual about it when we’re at cruise. It is probably time to specifically add something about turbulence to the briefing requirements.
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