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Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

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Can someone explain to me why this is needed vs an imagining tool (say ddrescue)? Is there no tool that actually makes a bit perfect copy yet?

There’s a lengthy explanation in the wiki linked from the github page. But basically cd drives don’t give you a raw stream, and does stuff like error correction.

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#13
post #6

I remember back in the day using https://xiph.org/paranoia/ for ripping. Tons of burned cds that eventually were tossed in favor of Spotify.

This type of ripping, comparing to other rips (paranoia) for bit-for-bit error correction integrity is part of XLD for Mac et al. However, even as a full time audio person, I consider paranoia overkill, and in someways backwards - I want my rip to be my unique rip and not precisely anyone else's - though of course, it most likely is anyway.

You do realise, assuming you ripped to a lossless audio format, your cd rips are 8-12x more accurate than anything streamed of Spotify?

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#15
post #11

Can someone explain to me why this is needed vs an imagining tool (say ddrescue)? Is there no tool that actually makes a bit perfect copy yet?

ddrescue can't read audio tracks, Audio CDs doesn't have a file system in the traditional sense either etc.

It's not meant for copy Audio CDs but CD-ROMs

That's why CDRDAO or CDDA Paranoia exist for decades.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160528213242/https://thomas.ap...

https://www.xiph.org/paranoia/

https://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#16
post #3

This is pretty cool, it's like a Python and *nix version of Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for Windows. I enjoy the ritual of perfectly ripping a CD. I can spend an hour or two scanning the artwork, verifying the track names, performing the rip, losslessly compressing (I prefer FLAC), generating .cue files, checksuming everything, then sitting down to experience the best possible digital copy of a physical item I can self pr…

Linux has cdparanoia for decades now, which doea all that stuff and I'm not sure what's new about Whipper.

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

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post #3

This is pretty cool, it's like a Python and *nix version of Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for Windows. I enjoy the ritual of perfectly ripping a CD. I can spend an hour or two scanning the artwork, verifying the track names, performing the rip, losslessly compressing (I prefer FLAC), generating .cue files, checksuming everything, then sitting down to experience the best possible digital copy of a physical item I can self pr…

Always makes me sad remembering what was lost when What.CD went offline.

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#18

Discovering music in the pre-gap before track 1 was my childhood equivalent of discovering a magickal incantation. In a world before mass use of the Internet, those who knew many of these secrets were our High Priests and Priestesses. I love the ease with which modern music can spread around the world but I miss the opportunity for surprise and discovery.

Wait what? How does this work? Which CDs had music stored before the start of the first track?

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#19
post #3

This is pretty cool, it's like a Python and *nix version of Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for Windows. I enjoy the ritual of perfectly ripping a CD. I can spend an hour or two scanning the artwork, verifying the track names, performing the rip, losslessly compressing (I prefer FLAC), generating .cue files, checksuming everything, then sitting down to experience the best possible digital copy of a physical item I can self pr…

For your setup-- if I do original CD -> accrual's rip -> burned CD, does burned CD == original CD for all values of original CD?

I'm mostly thinking of those interstitial lead-in thingies on live and concept albums. E.g., if you let a CD play from track 1 to track 2, there may be 5 seconds of crowd noise leading in to track 2. CD players would show this as track 2 at timing "-5", then count down to zero to get to the actual beginning of track 2.

If the user skipped directly to track two, this interstitial thingy wouldn't be played.

Edit: wording

Also: same question for what.cd ripping process. IIRC they broke the tracks down into different files.

Re: Whipper: Accurate Audio CD Ripping

#20
post #3

This is pretty cool, it's like a Python and *nix version of Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for Windows. I enjoy the ritual of perfectly ripping a CD. I can spend an hour or two scanning the artwork, verifying the track names, performing the rip, losslessly compressing (I prefer FLAC), generating .cue files, checksuming everything, then sitting down to experience the best possible digital copy of a physical item I can self pr…

Always makes me sad remembering what was lost when What.CD went offline.

Oink.
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