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Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by soderfoo »

ergonaught wrote: post #3

This has basically nailed the stuff my wife developed “out of nowhere” toward the end of 2021. Wow. I wonder how one convinces doctors to take that seriously? It’s been a real nightmare.

A coworker mentioned her partner was struggling with long covid. The wait time for a long covid specialist was long, and the eventual appointment yielded little.

Seeking a referral for the specific underlying symptom and abstaining from mentioning long covid finally resulted in better care it seems.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by squidsoup »

roenxi wrote: post #5

As always, it is difficult to assess this sort of thing without a reference to the flu. As far as I can tell, in daily life we are continuously encountering people with various chronic problems and systemically under-calling the impact of them. It is a total coincidence if a body is functioning at full capacity. If COVID increases the hazard ratios there isn't much I can do. As far as I can tell, everyone is going to…

Significantly worse than the flu - multi systemic organ damage. The narrative that covid is like the flu, is both wildly inaccurate as this paper explains, and also dangerous, leading to a more cavalier attitude towards covid prevention.

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Post by DoreenMichele »

soderfoo wrote: post #4

Unease and woe are the two feelings I'm left with after my quick layman reading of the article. Think I am most concerned with the reproductive implications, which seem under researched. Coupled with the unrelated decline in sperm count the past decade... I'm hoping my ruminations are just me catastrophizing. Can anyone more medically and scientifically literate provide some context to temper my doom and gloom?

Most likely, some of this can be treated nutritionally and will prove reversible.

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Post by EMM_386 »

I was diangosed with syncope on standing shortly after getting Covid (the first time).

I'd never experienced anything like this before in my life, but suddenly the world would fade to black if I stood up too soon from a reclined position. I also experienced intense brain fog. I actually scheduled a doctors appointment specifically for "brain fog" at the time and they were confused as to what I was explaining. All I could say is that it felt like I was thinking through "mud" and lost my ability to focus. I wasn't even thinking of Covid when I booked that appointment, but looking back it makes sense.

This has gotten better with time, but I have no doubt that Covid had something to do with this. The timing was just far too coincidental. The fact that it has strong binding affinity to ACE-2, which can cause cardiovascular issues, only lends credence to this theory.

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Post by stubish »

roenxi wrote: post #5

As always, it is difficult to assess this sort of thing without a reference to the flu. As far as I can tell, in daily life we are continuously encountering people with various chronic problems and systemically under-calling the impact of them. It is a total coincidence if a body is functioning at full capacity. If COVID increases the hazard ratios there isn't much I can do. As far as I can tell, everyone is going to…

> As far as I can tell, everyone is going to get COVID

This is a common feeling, but remember: You can greatly affect the probability of an infection through precautions. And if unlucky, you can greatly affect the number of times you get infected through precautions. Fewer infections, fewer rolls of the dice.

As far as I'm aware, I'm still infection free and hope to remain so. I am in a much better situation than most readers though, so good luck and try not to be defeatist and lose the war before the 2nd or 3rd battle has begun.

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Post by djtango »

thewizardofaus wrote: post #10

Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

Ouch that's a really serious and painful setback to your training! Sorry to hear about your struggles. Are you back to normal now? Any lingering issues eg cardio/breathing

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by DoreenMichele »

EMM_386 wrote: post #14

I was diangosed with syncope on standing shortly after getting Covid (the first time). I'd never experienced anything like this before in my life, but suddenly the world would fade to black if I stood up too soon from a reclined position. I also experienced intense brain fog. I actually scheduled a doctors appointment specifically for "brain fog" at the time and they were confused as to what I was explaining. All I c…

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Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by crims0n »

jotato wrote: post #9
crims0n wrote: post #2

Interesting that they classify loss of smell as a neurological symptom. I had Covid last January and my sense of smell has never been the same. I used to be able to walk into a room, flair my nostrils, and pick up everything from the couch, carpet, and curtains… to the subtle cool drafts from the windows and fireplace. Now everything has completely dulled out, and I only occasionally pick up those old scents in passi…

How is your taste? I lost it completely (not just a little or muted, but 100% gone) for about 5 weeks. It started to come back, but 18 months later things still don't taste right. Nothing is flavorful or stands out as delicious.

Sorry to hear that… I hope it continues to recover for you. Mine is okay for the most part I think, I have never had a complex palate though so the taste of food is something I haven’t historically valued outside of “this is edible, and this isn’t”.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by mistrial9 »

soderfoo wrote: post #11
ergonaught wrote: post #3

This has basically nailed the stuff my wife developed “out of nowhere” toward the end of 2021. Wow. I wonder how one convinces doctors to take that seriously? It’s been a real nightmare.

A coworker mentioned her partner was struggling with long covid. The wait time for a long covid specialist was long, and the eventual appointment yielded little. Seeking a referral for the specific underlying symptom and abstaining from mentioning long covid finally resulted in better care it seems.

in the USA if you are near a research hospital or can get to one.. a person signing up for a support group might find themselves heading to eligibility for participating in a formal medical study.
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