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ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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It fixed some things (“ChatGPT have”, “It’s has”) but changed the meaning of the first sentence and introduced a misplaced modifier (“As a non-native English speaker, ChatGPT…”).

Can you please explain how that is considered a misplaced modifier?

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Subtitles got noticably worse now that their generation is often farmed out to AI, especially in translations. Drives me nuts as someone who likes using subtitles.

And in return I can get subtitles on literally everything I want now instead of hoping the creator added them. I have no doubt that some places that were paying for transcription decided to go to AI/ML route but for every 1-2 of those there have have to be thousands of examples of subtitles existing where they never would have before. I always have YT's subtitles turned on and while they aren't perfect they are way b…

I have observed subtitles with mistakes that change the meaning to the exact opposite! On a video about the supply lines of components for a particular approach to fusion. Single word change which meant the CEO was saying his company wouldn't work. Are you sure you don't want to throw the navy out with the bathwater?

Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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Trading quality for price has been happening everywhere for long enough that it is easy to see how unfortunately it will now play out in the arts as well. I mean, not that long ago all clothes you wore were custom made by a tailor, all the music you listened to was played live by musicians, all stories were brought to life in front of you by theatre actors: now all of those while still available are significantly mor…

> Trading quality for price Means that many, many more people can have something of passable quality. For example: > not that long ago all clothes you wore were custom made by a tailor If you could afford a tailor; otherwise you had to make do with homemade rags that constantly needed mending and looked terrible. > all the music you listened to was played live by musicians If you could afford to go to concerts. > all…

Society was awash in music for centuries before recording and radio.

Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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My main concern isn't whether ChatGPT will kill off anything, like journalism. Instead, my concern is that this will create a Internet-wide echo chamber.

I've seen what happens when an individual human enter a delusional feedback loop and diverge from reality, that pivotal moment when sensemaking becomes self-referential. They get a psychotic break. I think we're going to get front-row seats at watching a whole, planet-spanning civilization enter a psychotic break.

Arguably, we are already there. It's just that, I think deploying ChatGPT will greatly accelerate this. This won't just be fringe or extreme subcultures, but rather, the mainstream cultures, as our sensemaking turns inwards.

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Subtitles got noticably worse now that their generation is often farmed out to AI, especially in translations. Drives me nuts as someone who likes using subtitles.

Huh, that hasn't been my experience, at least not yet. Are you talking about newer movies and shows?

I've been rewatching some Star Trek Voyager on paramount+ and there is no way a person did all the subtitles. It's like 98% accurate, I'll give it that. But there are enough glaring mistakes that there's just no way a person would have made those kind of mistakes and also they are easily catchable if a single person were to proofread.

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> There were times later on when I made most of my income from writing, so I'm sure she was wrong. Or you were just really bad at everything else you could do.

I got grades much better than "D" in most of my other classes and got perfect grades on the English SAT and Physics GRE.

Right but I meant as a job, not test scores.

I got a perfect score on english sat, math sat, physics sat, etc. doesn't mean I'm looking at all of those things as jobs.

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I agree with the article but maybe you are trying to do the wrong thing with ChatGPT. I am not a native English speaker (as many of you already noticed due to my grammar mistakes), so ChatGPT have been very useful to rewrite my texts, fix grammar and maybe "beautify" them a bit. It's has been an invaluable tool in that sense. I feel much more confident now sending emails and writing important messages knowing that th…

My thoughts on both paragraphs:

Oh look another apologetic non native English speaker using perfect English

Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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I just keep pressing 0 until a live person answers.

I think that's old fashioned. Newer systems I've dealt with just say "sorry, I can't understand you, please try again later" and hang up.

Related to this, I've had to call an airline and get told the queue is too long and to try calling back later. I have no idea who thought that was a good idea to implement because the queue will always be super long.

Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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One of the problems that I have with the "AI might replace some menial jobs, but people should aspire to bigger and better things" argument is that a lot of menial jobs are training for those bigger and better things. "Sure, ChatGPT can write some basic code, but it can't come up with creative solutions like I can." Yeah, that's true. But how did I get to the point of being able to make creative solutions? Years of w…

Thats the same issue with dall-e, stable diffusion, or any of these, and the ML world seems to think its a win and artists don't deserve to have jobs if they can't compete with or become users of those models. If you can't get paid to produce art as a journeyman that supports your basic needs you won't make it to being a master artist except in your free time, maybe, and you won't have the same work references for wo…

Is "being on the slopes toward a singularity" locally distinguishable from "pulling up the ladders behind you"?

Re: ChatGPT Can't Kill Anything Worth Preserving

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Yep. Recording and photography killed almost all the value (social and financial) of middling artistic talent in music, storytelling, and visual arts, which may well have been what gave a lot of people a significant part of their sense of self-worth before that—plus, maybe, some income. Now AI's coming for most of those who survived that first culling. And not just the middling-talent folks this time.

That's an interesting set of transition that I hadn't really comprehended. People used to be entertained by live performers in their local area. Printing, photography, radio, film, television, etc have all increased the availability and 'quality' of entertainment available at the same time as reducing the number of creators involved. (Obviously there is some debate possible around quality)

That kind of assumes people consumed the same amount of entertainment throughout history, which I don't think is correct.

It also assumes that they were constrained to local creators.

It is possible that people simply did other activities that don't involve a creator. Another possibility is that most people consumed content from a small set of non-local creators, like authors with wide distribution.

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