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They can monetize it if they want, but I just want it to not be as bad as DALL-E 2. When using an AI, it's not unusual to have to tinker a bit to get exactly what you want from it. Today, DALL-E cost 15$ to use it 115 times, but 90% of the time you don't really get good images, or necessarily exactly what you want. it means that you're actually paying 15$ for 10 or something image that are actually what you wanted. I…

I've found that combining the two AI's gives me more value out of DALL-E 2 i.e. using ChatGPT to generate prompts for DALL-E 2

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My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

I can’t get it to pretend to be a character from the Office, that would be too dangerous.

Comedy is dangerous in our Brave New World. It might maybe possibly cause harm.

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#83

Wish they can at least release previous conversations. I have been seeing "previous conversations are temporarily unavailable" for days and all I wanted is just to save some of my previously generated essays.

I think showing those previous conversations is a much harder job than it appears... There is an architectural problem. I described the issue here:[1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34337575

Yeah I get that, I think they should provide the static copies in the meanwhile.

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“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.

ChatGPT's knowledge doesn't run that deep. If ChatGPT can write a credible essay about a given subject it means your subject was rather generic to begin with.

I was playing a bit with ChatGPT and I wondered how much actual knowledge could be stored in that model. So I asked ChatGPT whether it knew the song by Franz Schubert called "Am Feierabend" and if so, if it could tell me the subject/meaning of the song. "Certainly I know this song", responded ChatGPT and then gave me -- with total confidence -- a completely wrong answer about the meaning of the song. In fact I was a bit baffled by the authority with which is spouted this nonsense answer. A truly intelligent system would be aware about the limits its knowledge, right?

So I think that with a minimum of creativity teachers can come up with questions that can easily stump ChatGPT.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the model gets as good as they strive for, its outputs would be indistinguishable from those of PHD level students. There would be no point in augmenting its results with human contributions

>If the model gets as good as they strive for, its outputs would be indistinguishable from those of PHD level students. There would be no point in augmenting its results with human contributions I don't disagree but in a world where every GPU on the planet is as intelligent as PHD student, the next year each GPU is twice as smart as the smartest human on Earth, and not long after that every person on Earth is either…

Fair enough!

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#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so? ChatGPT is quite popular on HN and other similar tech-savvy spheres, but is still far from enjoying mainstream success. Maybe like 1% of students have used it yet, and for a month at most, so it's quite the hyperbole to say that it's been "affecting" them already. Or, conversely, if this kind of thing worries you today, you're in for a wild ride ...

My son's (he's 17) peers are all using it for homework at school. Agree on the wild ride though. This is like the advent of the electronic calculator on maths study, but the difference here is everyone has got it at once.

>This is like the advent of the electronic calculator on maths study ...

Absolutely! And I honestly think it will be a net positive, after all.

As others have pointed, with or without calculators, GPT or whatever, slackers gonna slack and those who take it seriously will have another great tool in their hands to do great things with it.

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#90

I've been using you.com's chat feature a lot recently, which is a ChatGPT-like conversational AI. It's so good that I have now switched over my default search engine to you.com, as of last week. First change to my default in over 15 years.

I asked you.com's chat a very basic question: how do I build a pc? and it said " Oops, I’m still learning and I couldn’t generate an answer right now. Please try again." Not sure that's a chatGPT like AI to me.

I asked it other simple questions and got the same answer.

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