Is OpenAI looking to break even and use ChatGPT as a loss-leader for other services or will they position ChatGPT as their cash cow for the near-future? Pricing a powerful product like this is tough, especially since it's only a matter of time before competitors join the market. Per-token pricing doesn't seem viable for ChatGPT.
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#32My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad.
I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode”
That could be worth paying for.
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#33Wish they can at least release previous conversations. I have been seeing "previous conversations are temporarily unavailable" for days and all I wanted is just to save some of my previously generated essays.
Worth checking your browser cache maybe...
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#34“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.
Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.
I 'borrowed' the (ten year old) daughter of a friend and sat her down in front of ChatGPT to see what would happen, proposing she ask for help with her homework.
And yes, the first thing she did was see if it could literally answer it for her. It did. However, once that was done with she proceeded to massively expand the scope of the original homework... I've rarely seen anyone her age as enthused with learning, they're usually already tired of school.
Yes, I was standing by to fact-check it, but it didn't actually make any mistakes. Which is a little unfortunate, I guess... I'd been planning to stress the importance of cross-checking. Oh well. It generally seems to get everything right at the level of questioning children are usually capable of.
(Half an hour later she was asking it why water expands when it freezes. Fifteen minutes after that we were reading a wikipedia article on molecular physics... I dare say this was a productive evening.)
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I think ChatGPT is an incredible resource for learning, and trying to keep it out of schools is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It does better at teaching than the teachers often manage.
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#35Curious what others would pay/if anyone else signed the form? I'd pay like $10/mo I think. Possibly more if there were no censorship/limitations (it had access to internet browsing, and I could direct it to URL's for information and whatnot). I pay that for Copilot right now, which I feel is easily worth $50/mo. (I don't use ChatGPT that much, it'd need to be ingrained in my IDE workflow)
Yeah, I'd need to find a way to integrate ChatGPT more into my life, right now it's just a fun toy I occasionally try. Now if it had an API and people could build apps/plugins with it (and I just login with my ChatGPT account) then I'd be interested.
CoPilot has provided me amazing value for the a tiny price. It's to the point that for anything even resembling boilerplate/obvious code I just expect it will get it right (the exact way I would have written it). The other day I was using CodeRunner (a little tool to run/test snippets of code in various languages, it's not perfect but it's a nice little playground that runs locally) and I was just staring at the screen wondering why it wasn't auto-completing the line before I realized "Oh, I don't have CoPilot here", I've come to depend/expect it's output, to "trust" it such that when it's not there I feel the loss. Same way I wish I had multiple cursors in every app/webapp like I do in my IDE.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
lol, I agree that it came out of nowhere, but it has been affecting student's learning IMO - not sure if it's been for better or worse.
How so? ChatGPT is quite popular on HN and other similar tech-savvy spheres, but is still far from enjoying mainstream success. Maybe like 1% of students have used it yet, and for a month at most, so it's quite the hyperbole to say that it's been "affecting" them already. Or, conversely, if this kind of thing worries you today, you're in for a wild ride ...
My son's (he's 17) peers are all using it for homework at school. Agree on the wild ride though. This is like the advent of the electronic calculator on maths study, but the difference here is everyone has got it at once.
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#37Curious what others would pay/if anyone else signed the form? I'd pay like $10/mo I think. Possibly more if there were no censorship/limitations (it had access to internet browsing, and I could direct it to URL's for information and whatnot). I pay that for Copilot right now, which I feel is easily worth $50/mo. (I don't use ChatGPT that much, it'd need to be ingrained in my IDE workflow)
I put $10-20, but I'd honestly probably go a little higher than that. That's less a function of ChatGPT's utility (it's great for some things but not enough to be a huge timesaver) and more of the fact that I think it's neat. Given my finances, something like $25/month isn't going to have any noticeable impact, so that seems like a reasonable price to pay for a fun toy that reminds me that we're living in the future.
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#38I would pay for a Premium ChatGPT only if it comes with disabled watermarking. Otherwise, I'll use something else.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
lol, I agree that it came out of nowhere, but it has been affecting student's learning IMO - not sure if it's been for better or worse.
Almost certainly negatively. Why learn or put in effort into written text prompts when examiners can be easily fooled with machine generated prose? Those that lack discipline, self-control, and have no desire to learn will eliminate themselves.
My son is 7 years and he routinely asks me "why learn anything when you can just ask Google?". I can only imagine the impact this will have on that attitude over time.
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#40If I pay them will they remove some of the stupid limitations?
As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.
I couldn't agree more with the first sentence and disagree more with the last one.