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Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by dcsommer »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.

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Post by solomatov »

There's definitely huge value in the system, but there's a lot of work to do to make it even more valuable. Hope they will get close to the premium product soon. Would be happy to pay for it even in its current form within reasonable price range.

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Post by nszceta »

jtbayly wrote: post #4

If I pay them will they remove some of the stupid limitations?

As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.

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Post by jerpint »

dcsommer wrote: post #11
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.

Education today seems broken, perhaps this will be a way to fix a broken system. They don’t teach abacus use in schools anymore as well as how to use log tables

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Post by amanj41 »

KVFinn wrote: post #8
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

>This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board. Ironically if it were impacting learning I think it would be specifically if ChatGPT was NOT being used across the board, but by only a subset of students. So some kids doing assignments the hard way while others have the equivalent of a calculator/secr…

If the model gets as good as they strive for, its outputs would be indistinguishable from those of PHD level students. There would be no point in augmenting its results with human contributions

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by gavinray »

Curious what others would pay/if anyone else signed the form?

I'd pay like $10/mo I think. Possibly more if there were no censorship/limitations (it had access to internet browsing, and I could direct it to URL's for information and whatnot).

I pay that for Copilot right now, which I feel is easily worth $50/mo. (I don't use ChatGPT that much, it'd need to be ingrained in my IDE workflow)

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Post by moralestapia »

Heidaradar wrote: post #3
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

lol, I agree that it came out of nowhere, but it has been affecting student's learning IMO - not sure if it's been for better or worse.

How so?

ChatGPT is quite popular on HN and other similar tech-savvy spheres, but is still far from enjoying mainstream success. Maybe like 1% of students have used it yet, and for a month at most, so it's quite the hyperbole to say that it's been "affecting" them already. Or, conversely, if this kind of thing worries you today, you're in for a wild ride ...

Re: OpenAI starts testing ChatGPT premium

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Post by godmode2019 »

Something interesting that will come from these LLM is university is all about writing papers, you get your degree by writing papers.

Now you can argue each year the value of a university degree will drop because more and more people will get LLM to write their papers for them.

The whole higher education model may need to change, its a similar paradigm shift as the invention of the graphs calculator.

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