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The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Re: The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Post by rascul »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #33
yetihehe wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For those who don't know these are stoves that have on board batteries allowing them to generate, for a period of time, far more heat than an ordinary house circuit would be able to power. Depends on ordinarity of a house. My ordinary house has 3phase power and my pretty cheap induction stove outperforms all gas stoves I had. When I was living in a flat, I only had single phase power, but 4kW should still be enough…

> In USA you typically only have 110V Surely stoves are connected to the 220 V connection? Same for washers and dryers. 110 V in the US is one arm of a centre tapped secondary.

> Surely stoves are connected to the 220 V connection? Same for washers and dryers.

Yes, except the washers.

Re: The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Post by Lutger »

rs999gti wrote: post #14
mikrl wrote: post #7

It’s politicized too which is ridiculous. I’ve seen takes that being pro gas cookery is right-wing. Yes, it’s obvious that gas heat and cooking could cause respiratory issues due to combustion. As a gourmand though, cooking on a gas range is the best experience wrt temp control and convenience. I prefer an electric oven, and the heating system I’m impartial to, though radiant hot water is what I fondly remember from…

Are any right wing EU, US, or CA parties supporting the gas stove ban or is just lefties and greenies doing it?

The gas stove ban that is in the news is a US thing, not a EU or CA as far as I know. I haven't heard of any gas stove bans in the EU being talked about, though some were already on the table in an effort to get rid of gas altogether.

If I'm not mistaken, it was _not_ a political initiative, at least not initially, but talked about as an option by The US Consumer Product Safety Commission in the case if stoves could not be made safe, in response to scientific research revealing its hazardous effects.

Generally, right-wing parties care less about health hazards (if at all), so I wouldn't expect any supporting such a ban. Mind you, what is considered right-wing varies from country to country.

Re: The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Post by Philorandroid »

freen wrote: post #42
Philorandroid wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No One Is, It's Spontaneous™

Ahh yes, Big Induction. Well known astroturfers. They’ve known since 1970 that climate change due to induction stoves… wait, sorry, confused them with Exxon. Easy mistake.

Because there's no platform or ideology on earth capable of paid advocacy besides the oil industry, and certainly no political movements ostensibly grounded in "green" advocacy.

Re: The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Post by jsdalton »

glanzwulf wrote: post #4

Today I found out I'm a paid influencer. Shame nobody told that to my bank account or my instagram followers. To me gas stoves are the best, and now that I don't have one I miss it even more.

Do you have an induction stovetop now or a regular convection? Because in my experience induction is vastly superior to both convection and gas stoves. It provides far more and faster heat, cools nearly instantly and the nice ones at least give you flexibility where you put your pan.

The downside of induction is it doesn’t work with all pot types.

The big advantage gas retains is the ability to see with your eye exactly how much heat you’re producing. I do love being able to precisely tune exactly how much heat I’m cooking with. I assume this is why gas is so prevalent at restaurants.

But I’ve also found that at home once I get to know an electric stove (what does level 5 do vs 6?) I’m just as capable as I am with gas.

(I’m opposite of you btw. Had electric for a long time and just moved to a house with a gas stovetop.)

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Post by bombcar »

bob1029 wrote: post #49

The respiratory argument I really don't understand with specific regard to gas vs electric cooking. I don't care if my range is powered by alien technology that magically sequesters carbon somewhere else - When you heat something above a certain temperature, you are producing all kinds of chemical compounds that are not going to be good for you. It doesn't really matter how the mass was brought to that temperature. T…

I suspect that of measuring “particulates in the air” pressure cookers and microwaves easily win.

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Post by shapefrog »

freen wrote: post #42
Philorandroid wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No One Is, It's Spontaneous™

Ahh yes, Big Induction. Well known astroturfers. They’ve known since 1970 that climate change due to induction stoves… wait, sorry, confused them with Exxon. Easy mistake.

Big Induction are all part of agenda. The induction hobs are needed to charge up the 5g mind control chips.

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Post by bedbot »

bob1029 wrote: post #49

The respiratory argument I really don't understand with specific regard to gas vs electric cooking. I don't care if my range is powered by alien technology that magically sequesters carbon somewhere else - When you heat something above a certain temperature, you are producing all kinds of chemical compounds that are not going to be good for you. It doesn't really matter how the mass was brought to that temperature. T…

I don't know the numbers, but the premise here is not (a) that gas is bad or that (b) cooking releases particulate, but rather that gas stoves are actually constantly leaking very small amounts of particulate that in aggregate can cause harm along the same lines of other sources of PM2.5 pollution.

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Post by kelipso »

_puk wrote: post #50
hospadar wrote: post #31

Induction maaaan! Switched from gas to induction and love it. I miss my stove every time i have to cook elsewhere. Mine is pretty much the cheapest induction range on the market (and i bought it used). Heats up way faster than gas (WAY FASTER, will get cast iron glowing if i leave an empty cast iron on the stove for a while at the highest setting), low/medium control is excellent and precise, and i really appreciate…

The Induction Industry Is Paying HN Influencers to Gush over Induction Stoves (2023) Tongue in cheek, but nowadays it's so hard to establish what is a genuine appraisal and what isn't..

Yeah really, that's why the smart thing to do is to attack the other side first haha.

Also the anti gas stove thing feels like the most blatantly astroturfed indoctrination project in quite a while.

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