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Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by sho »

esperent wrote: post #105
sho wrote: post #18

This might be the last straw. I flat out refuse to use their horrible app with its nonsense algorithmic timeline. Give it a few hours to see if it's permanent but if it is, I expect a huge wave of new mastodon users..

Let's be real, if your "last straw" moment wasn't several weeks ago it's unlikely this is gonna be it. But if it is, shame on you. All the silencing of journalists, banning accounts for saying "mastodon", or saying anything negative about Tesla, or criticizing Musk in any way, that didn't do it. But now you have been mildly inconvenienced and it's the last straw. Really?

Ha, fair response. But the truth is I haven't much cared, you're right. Twitter is a private company, they agreed to sell and Musk bought it, if he wants to screw up his asset and his reputation by doing ridiculous things, that's his prerogative. I don't really follow much of that drama, nor do I regard twitter as some kind of indispensable public utility.

But yes, now it is personally inconveniencing me, and so I'm looking at alternatives.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by r721 »

numpad0 wrote: post #107
natch wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, technically, chronological ordering is an algorithm. I wonder what you would want. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tweets flowing at 250kbps or more 24/7, of course… Edit: the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically.

>the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically.

Source? The thing is I compare chronological timeline with lists (of users I follow) all the time, and I didn't notice any missing tweets. "Shadowbanned" tweets always were visible in lists, I personally checked that.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by wpietri »

esperent wrote: post #105
sho wrote: post #18

This might be the last straw. I flat out refuse to use their horrible app with its nonsense algorithmic timeline. Give it a few hours to see if it's permanent but if it is, I expect a huge wave of new mastodon users..

Let's be real, if your "last straw" moment wasn't several weeks ago it's unlikely this is gonna be it. But if it is, shame on you. All the silencing of journalists, banning accounts for saying "mastodon", or saying anything negative about Tesla, or criticizing Musk in any way, that didn't do it. But now you have been mildly inconvenienced and it's the last straw. Really?

Eh, that seems a bit unnecessary to me.

I left Twitter nearly two months ago. Ultimately, I just couldn't stomach supporting Musk by continuing to view ads, contribute content, and give people positive feedback (via likes and retweets) that helped them stay: https://twitter.com/williampietri/status/1593662348568326151

But I don't think that people who stayed are necessarily morally defective. There have always been reasons to quit Twitter and reasons to stay. Most people stayed either because they decided Twitter was a net positive for them or because Twitter is a habit-forming drug, or a bit of both. It's not only unsurprising to me that some take longer to quit than others, that's part of what made me leave: to undermine, ever so slightly, the rewards for staying.

If this disruption to their usual method of consumption is what pushes them over the line, great. We live in an age where it's impossible to live an ethically pure life, so I'm happy to celebrate steps forward as people take them. Good job, Twitter quitters! Welcome to the club.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by thecopy »

wut42 wrote: post #128
thecopy wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is not the ordering, it is that it contains tweets from people i am not following. Before i could hide those by muting suggest_activity_tweet and suggest_recycled_tweet_inline This does not seem to work anymore

Wait, what? Since when? I'm regulary reading using the chronogical timeline and I'm not seeing anything like you describe (I only see that using the "for you" algo timeline). Very concerning anyway. :(

Oh, it seems it was reset to use the algorithmic one. I for sure did not change that myself...

Thx for making me double check

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by mrtksn »

samwillis wrote: post #67

It would not surprise me if this is the end of third party clients and the new owner has removed access. Very disappointing if he has, particularly if he's done it with zero notice too. He has been making significant noise of feature changes in the official client coming in the next couple of weeks. Removing the third party client access would align with that, along with removing the little "posted by ..." note on ea…

Does anything stops devs from using the Web interface instead of the API? Sure it makes it a bit more challenging because parsing is involved but AFAIK it is completely legal to parse and display HTML output however you want. It's essentially like a browser add-on.

I wonder if Twitter can be killed by the "embrace, extend, extinguish" strategy?

So:

1. Make a client that combines Mastadon/Others and Twitter feeds, making it switching out of Twitter frictionless.

2. Provide extra functionality for non-Twitter posts, encouraging the use of the non-Twitter services.

3. Once have a good traction, penalize Twitter post to further push non-Twitter adoption. Eventually remove Twitter support completely.

4. Profit??

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by wpietri »

r721 wrote: post #152
numpad0 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tweets flowing at 250kbps or more 24/7, of course… Edit: the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically.

>the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically. Source? The thing is I compare chronological timeline with lists (of users I follow) all the time, and I didn't notice any missing tweets. "Shadowbanned" tweets always were visible i…

Yeah, unless something has changed drastically in the couple of months since I stopped using Twitter, I believe the web-based chronological timeline is exactly as you say. As soon as you click on a tweet to see replies you're getting things ranked, of course. But one's home timeline should be fine.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by numpad0 »

Is this potentially retaliatory to negative responses to recent Twitter Blue changes?

I saw that Twitter started displaying Blue subscriber tweets in a rather obnoxious way, which resulted in non-subscribers removing and blocking subscribers. I’ve also seen that some users were subscribing Blue expecting their deboosting penalties to clear, only for it to be worsened.

That weakly suggests to me that Blue subscriber demographic is split between undesirable users, either undesirable to other users or to Twitter itself. If so, …

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by mg »

I wished everyone who Tweets would also post to the Fediverse. Because fediverse nodes like Mastodon support RSS out of the box.

Twitter is my only news source that I cannot consume via RSS. So if you publish something on Twitter, you miss most of my attention and only catch it if I log into Twitter that day.

Or post to your personal website and have it support RSS or Atom. It is super easy to implement. Or if you use a ready made cms like Wordpress, it usually supports it out of the box.

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