India’s caste system limits diversity in science

Post by belltaco » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:50 PM UTC

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Here are the facts about women in India: Technology firms in India have a better female to male staff ratio than the tech giants of Silicon Valley [1]. India has a much better male-to-female ratio compared with the U.S. Engineering male-female ratio in India is 1.96 as compared with 4.61 in the U.S. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-professional/2015/jun/2... [2] https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog…

Those are facts about women in Indian IT that employs 5M / 0.5% of population. Real concerning facts about women in India is they have some of the lowest female labour force participation rates in the world, excluding Arab countries. And DECLINING from 25-30% in early 2000s to ~17% today. Which is absurd since everywhere else, female partcipation increases in workforce as country developes. That said, my understandin…

Post by adamsmith143 » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:26 PM UTC

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Just want to point out that the unnatural vigor with which HN and other forums reject the idea of Caste Discrimination is telling. If this were White on Minority racism for instance people defending it in this way would be ostracized and most would say that it this type of discrimination is beyond the pale and call for vigorous investigation into the claims. Instead all we see about Caste discrimination is "it doesn'…

That's because people on HN are vastly more familiar with things in their own country, and see and hear abject racism among their own folks. For example, the classic uncle at the Thanksgiving table, or a grandparent. They have no context of Indian caste system, and only go by some online articles that have their own agenda to make a bigger deal of the caste system in modern day, than it is.

Post by adamsmith143 » Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 9:31 PM UTC

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Thank you for reinforcing my point like nothing I say could.

It's funny how folks like you have zero clue or context about the caste system in India yet read a couple of agenda based biased articles and come to nonsense conclusions.

Post by known » Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 7:00 AM UTC

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What I found surprising is that the genetic distance between Indian castes is rather large, comparable to the distance of a northern European to eg a greek person: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC311057/

It seems to me that, if you have a society that divides people by caste and comes down hard on intermarriage, after some generations this is what you'd expect. Not one big "Indian" gene pool, but several smaller ones who remain distinct while still living close together.