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I started the codebase over a decade ago now, and at the time Rails felt a little heavy (inline with your comments). That said, Rails does let you get started pretty quickly without needing much of anything else.
Rails has more magic. If you prefer less magic, then Sinatra is the way.
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> What do you mean by "heavyweight"? Rails latest release (7.0.4) have 386,970 lines of code in total, 310,779 of it being Ruby code. 3000 files in total. Just the `lib` directory of `activerecord` has 33,036 lines of code, across 369 files. By most metrics, RoR is pretty heavyweight, as their literal taglines are "Ruby on Rails scales from HELLO WORLD to IPO" and "A web-app framework that includes everything needed…
> By most metrics, RoR is pretty heavyweight, as their literal taglines are "Ruby on Rails scales from HELLO WORLD to IPO" and "A web-app framework that includes everything needed to create database-backed web applications according to the Model-View-Controller (MVC) pattern", so it needs to be pretty big to support those use cases. Not sure what do you mean by "most metrics". Framework supporting features is not sam…
some people don't want have a server only for this and accept the drawbacks of not having a full database server, for example remoteok.
I like Ruby but I don't like Rails. No idea if this is better now but I would get weird exceptions that would be from metaprogramming goofiness that was really difficult to debug and find documentation for, and it uniquely bothers me when I can't figure out where errors are coming from in code (same critique of async/nodejs). The general heaviness also just didn't mesh well with my programming style, I like things cl…
> We’ll be doing some deep dives into our new infrastructure in the future, including discussing how we built our own anycast network
(https://blog.neocities.org/blog/2017/03/26/huge-space-increa...)
I like Ruby but I don't like Rails. No idea if this is better now but I would get weird exceptions that would be from metaprogramming goofiness that was really difficult to debug and find documentation for, and it uniquely bothers me when I can't figure out where errors are coming from in code (same critique of async/nodejs). The general heaviness also just didn't mesh well with my programming style, I like things cl…
Today I learned Neocities uses Sinatra, thanks for sharing your point of view and for the work you're doing on Neocities!
(I'm not saying it's better than Rails, just that it's better than Rails for me.)
I like Ruby but I don't like Rails. No idea if this is better now but I would get weird exceptions that would be from metaprogramming goofiness that was really difficult to debug and find documentation for, and it uniquely bothers me when I can't figure out where errors are coming from in code (same critique of async/nodejs). The general heaviness also just didn't mesh well with my programming style, I like things cl…
Rails 7 has been my favorite version since 3. Version 3 was probably the peak of metaprogramming and when basically anything you tried worked which was fun but really cowboy.
I have a small project to explore the various multitasking paradigms in Ruby, here: https://github.com/rickhull/miner_mover