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Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#111

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I think the problem is that they are trying to sell a radio as if it were a TV.

Except, of course, that they're not selling anything.

He means sell as in persuade people to use

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#112

This is interesting, but what is really missing from the non-graphical (and non CSS/JS/WASM) web is a good search engine. Or, if there is one that returns only these kinds of results, I don't know it.

https://wiby.me

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#114

I don’t think I’ve ever seen HN react so negatively to a project, but I think that has to do with the image people have of what a “browser” is. Kristall isn’t very useful for HTTP even though it supports the protocol. That said its goal is the “small internet” and very basic sites on HTTP will work, which is is inline with that goal. Some have complained even Google search doesn’t work, but Google search doesn’t fall…

I think the problem is that they are trying to sell a radio as if it were a TV.

They're "selling" a TV as a TV when the world has switched to using full-blown mind-control shopping malls as TVs.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#115

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Except, of course, that they're not selling anything.

He means sell as in persuade people to use

Which they're also not trying to do. It's just a cool project, shared for those that want to use it.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#118
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Distraction-free access to information. Like reading a book.

There is nothing about HTML/CSS/JS that prevents simplicity. It is purely how it has been used and abused. You can also disable JS and use user agent stylesheets in any modern web browser.

Where is the button to enable JavaScript? For reasons of simplicity, resource use, and security JavaScript should be disabled by default. But there ain't that button, it's complicated.

Where is the security? Chrome last I checked had eight actively exploited zero-days last year, which is laughably bad compared to the other operating system I use. Perhaps if the modern web was simpler, a browser would be easier to implement, and more time could be spent on making it not a raging security dumpster fire? But it ain't, it's complicated.

How does one even setup user agent stylesheets? What could that be but yet more complexity? Meanwhile, I'll use w3m and amfora and if it's a broken page that mandates Flash, JavaScript, whatever, I most likely won't bother launching a "heavyweight champion" browser. The CPU fans will last longer that way.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#119
post #42

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You can read a book on your tablet / laptop, or even watch a movie adaptation; or you can read a book on dead trees. Some people would like to recreate certain aspects of the "dead tree" experience without actually killing trees.

use a dedicated ebook reader.

So isn't this kind of project very similar in scope to an ebook reader app? It just focuses on browsing hypertext media, rather than a pdf/epub.

I still don't understand why it's utility is being questioned, when the entire category clearly has a user base.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#120

I don’t think I’ve ever seen HN react so negatively to a project, but I think that has to do with the image people have of what a “browser” is. Kristall isn’t very useful for HTTP even though it supports the protocol. That said its goal is the “small internet” and very basic sites on HTTP will work, which is is inline with that goal. Some have complained even Google search doesn’t work, but Google search doesn’t fall…

You can't call it an internet browser if it doesn't work properly on 99.99% percent of existing pages. It's like calling telnet a browser, when it only accurately displays text/plain.
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