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Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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> If we look at how other permit processes have worked within our industry, it will be at least 10-15 years... When it takes 15 years simply to get permission to do something, you know that your country will never be competitive globally. Either the benefits outweigh the downsides, or vice versa. A group of 10 of the right experts ought to be able to decide that in a week. Spending 15 years paper-pushing, doing court…

TIL Sweden never has been competitive.

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#63

Not exactly surprising that it’s in Sweden, as many rare earth metals were first discovered here and are named after Swedish things: - Scandium from Scandinavia - Yttrium, Terbium, Erbium and Ytterbium from the village of Ytterby - Holmium from Stockholm - Thulium from Thule

Isn't Thule on Greenland (or are there multiple Thule around?)

There seems to be multiple Thule, but none of them in Sweden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_(disambiguation), although there seems to be a Swedish brand with the name as well, but unrelated to the location as far as I can tell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Group

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#65

‚metals which are essential for, among other applications, the manufacture of electric vehicles and wind turbines‘ Great way to frame mining as eco-friendly haha. Is my take too skeptical? Are these very specific metals to eco-friendly production?

Funny, for me it's exactly the opposite. I feel it frames eco-friendly technologies as something dirty, polluting.

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#66

Not exactly surprising that it’s in Sweden, as many rare earth metals were first discovered here and are named after Swedish things: - Scandium from Scandinavia - Yttrium, Terbium, Erbium and Ytterbium from the village of Ytterby - Holmium from Stockholm - Thulium from Thule

Quite impressive that little Sweden has found the second most elements in the world, 19 of them.

https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/legac...

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not super familiar for speed/"velocity" addicted software engineers working on web apps, but things like mining, construction and other huge operations take some time to complete, and safety in modern countries is a huge factor when doing things like this, which adds a lot of time as well.

Ok but why is this news worthy ? Predicting industry demand in 15 years is pointless. I mean I remember 15 years ago everyone was talking about "peak oil imminent collapse". This seems irrelevant for problems of today so framing it as a solution to these is ridiculous. By the time these start producing most of Europe has already proposed ICE bans.

Even though "News" is in the name of "Hacker News" it's not just for "News" or "New Things", it's for everything hackers find interesting. This story, evidently, is interesting enough to gather 133 points in less than 1 hour so it is "Hacker News Worthy" even if it maybe isn't "news worthy".

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#68

Not exactly surprising that it’s in Sweden, as many rare earth metals were first discovered here and are named after Swedish things: - Scandium from Scandinavia - Yttrium, Terbium, Erbium and Ytterbium from the village of Ytterby - Holmium from Stockholm - Thulium from Thule

Would Thorium be part of that list as well? Edit: I kinda know that because I have some weird passion about the elements of periodic table and because I'm reading "Periodic Tales: A Cultural History of The Elements From Arsenic To Zinc" which I really recommend!

Indeed, good catch : > Thorium was discovered in 1828 by the Norwegian amateur mineralogist Morten Thrane Esmark and identified by the Swedish chemist Jöns Jacob Berzelius, who named it after Thor, the Norse god of thunder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

#69
> "This is good news, not only for LKAB, the region and the Swedish people, but also for Europe and the climate...

No, this is not good news. Mining is one of the most polluting human activities there is. In addition, all those machines used for digging and pulverizing the minerals, they run on petrol.

In fact, the entire value chain from raw mineral to finished product, be it solar panels, wind turbine, or the latest iPhone, is totally dependent on fossil fuels: coal for making steel, petrol for the all the rest: mining, refining, transporting, installing.

This is the hard truth about so called "renewables" - they would not have existed without the use of fossil fuels. Anyone telling you otherwise is simply greenwashing. If we really care about our future a whole different approach is needed.

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