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Re: NYC Slice

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Post by barry-cotter »

bnralt wrote: post #374
pzone wrote: post #237

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I used to live near Bagelsaurus and it is better than any bagel I can get in my Brooklyn neighborhood now. Dragon Pizza there similarly high quality.

There are a number of foods that are supposedly only being amazing within a certain geographic location, but the best ones I've had were far outside if that location. The best shrimp poboy I had was in Tampa; nothing I could find in New Orleans even came close. There was a New York style pizza place in Shanghai which people that went back to America would talk about missing (better than any pizza I've had in NYC). An…

> There was a New York style pizza place in Shanghai which people that went back to America would talk about missing (better than any pizza I've had in NYC).

Homeslice or Joe’s?

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by ethbr0 »

TylerE wrote: post #208
yamtaddle wrote: post #172

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They tricked me once. I was hoping for something akin to Pizza Hut's short-lived early-'00s "Big New Yorker", which wasn't really like NY pizza but was a lot better than everything else PH was serving at the time. Nope, just as bad as their regular pizza.

The crust is what you see, but it's the sauce and cheese you taste.

Imho, crust on pizza is like rice in sushi: greatness starts there.

Sauce >> crust >> cheese >> toppings

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yourapostasy »

DonHopkins wrote: post #268
billiam wrote: post #90

Native New Yorker here. Out of towners are obsessed with the BEST slice, but the true measure of NYC's 45 degree greatness is the decent quality following a Poisson distribution. My tip: just travel to any random spot in the five boroughs. First; you will be impressed how close you are to a pizza spot wherever you are. Second: you will be impressed with the slice, and with the variety of people who are good at making…

And I love all the fresh bagel shops too!

I would love to find "food safe heritage bagels" anywhere in the world, which would not be comfortable to the average modern palate today, so I've read.

These would be turn of the 20th century New York Jewish style bagels, made back then by bagel unions entirely by hand because the dough was too stiff for common kneading machines at that time (not quite sure how that squares with the giant industrial machines of the day, maybe the missing detail is the common bakery kneading machines were not up to the task though a hyper-expensive custom machine could be commissioned). These were so infamously toughly chewy they were hyperbolically touted as teeth breaking and taking an indecent amount of time to digest. "Food safe" because bagel bakery conditions at the turn of the 20th century are unacceptable these days.

Or maybe I've been bamboozled by food editors hunting for clicks.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by neycoda »

"The biggest thing I have noticed is the decline in the amount of sauce put on slices. I’m sure this is a cost-saving measure, but the overall quality of your average slice in the city has definitely suffered."

Yes, that's generally what happens with a _stupid_ "cost-saving measure", whicb our culture defends to the hilt for some reason.

There's ways to cut costs without compromising quality, called a _smart_ cost-saving measure, but our culture isn't about quality anymore, is it? It's all about saving/making money, but money doesn't taste very good, does it? I'd rather spend a little more for a quality piece of pizza than save money eating something that tastes more like cardboard than before.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by neycoda »

awhitty wrote: post #130
billiam wrote: post #90

Native New Yorker here. Out of towners are obsessed with the BEST slice, but the true measure of NYC's 45 degree greatness is the decent quality following a Poisson distribution. My tip: just travel to any random spot in the five boroughs. First; you will be impressed how close you are to a pizza spot wherever you are. Second: you will be impressed with the slice, and with the variety of people who are good at making…

I 100% agree, and I've only visited NYC a couple times. Each time I visit, I try to eat at least one slice of pizza and one bagel every day. The thing that blows me away is how generally good they are, no matter where I buy them. Of course I'll look at reviews, but I won't walk more than 5 blocks to get a slice. Never been disappointed. Same thing visiting Paris - you can hunt for the BEST croissant, but the remarkab…

It's not about quality when they're reducing sauce to save money, as stated in the article. The slices may still be better than in any other state, but the focus has shifted from quality to price.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by skipkey »

ProAm wrote: post #134
tz18 wrote: post #23

Pizza is 3USD a slice in NY?!??!?!?

Are you saying that is expensive or inexpensive? Avg's to 18 bucks a pie, which for cheese seems about right for NYC

Seems ridiculously cheap to me. here in Phoenix, there are 2 restaurants near me that do by the slice, both around $5. Most restaurants don’t offer it.

I have only spent a month or so in NYC working a decade back, and at the time every thing was more expensive than home except pizza. I think every region probably has its cheap food for the working class. Here it’s tacos, there it was cheap slices.

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Post by xtiansimon »

mgce wrote: post #142
rcme wrote: post #109

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Out-of-towners are obsessed with the BEST, most obscure everything. It's one of the things I liked least about living in the city. Everything always felt like a competition about who knew the coolest places. It's comical that someone would travel more than a few minutes within NYC just to try a slice of pizza. Like if it's a nice neapolitan pie, sure. But just for a standard NYC-style slice? That's a waste of time. A…

I travel well outside my neighborhood for standard slices regularly and I've never felt it's a waste of time. But maybe an out-of-towner feeling they need to find the perfect slice is a different perspective than mine as a local. I know what I want out of the places I seek out and I'm comfortable with whatever extra time investment that requires.

True. If you’re on vacation you want something to ground your day’s activity and a story to tell the peeps back home.

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Post by yunwal »

hparadiz wrote: post #460
yunwal wrote: post #404

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Philly and New Haven are basically the only 2 other cities that have solid “pizza cultures”. If you go to Baltimore, DC, or Boston you can’t get anything close to an NY slice without traveling significantly out of your way. Even then, the ubiquity of the NYC slice shop can’t be matched

You'd be surprised. My absolute favorite pizza in the entire world is from a small family owned pizza place in the suburbs of Philly. This spot. https://g.co/kgs/MYr2E9 In Philly my favorite is https://g.co/kgs/1RkGda Also the Jersey shore has a ton of spots.

Yeah an important clarification is New York is really only dominant in slice shops. Great restaurant pizza exists almost everywhere now.

I’ll have to check out your Philly recs.

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Post by bradleyjg »

SamBam wrote: post #412
bradleyjg wrote: post #250

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Not Boston’s but I’ve had a ton of “you have to try this one bagel shop in town, it’s just like New York!” Generally speaking they’ve been decent enough bagels, but the shops don’t have the turnover to be able to ask “what’s hot?” and get a reasonable answer. Also, the appetizing game tends to be pretty weak. Occasionally a shop will fly in Acme, which is admittedly impressive, but it tends to only be nova. I’m hard…

Those last three can always be found at Mammelah's in Cambridge, if you're in town.

Great name for a bagel shop.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

noduerme wrote: post #473
yunwal wrote: post #381

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Still under $5 if you’re getting them on a Kaiser roll (as opposed to a sub)

Kaiser rolls are really the shit. It should be noted to the class warrior above... you used to be able to sit down in a lot of sit-down restaurants on the Lower East Side, and get a basket of free kaiser rolls and butter before you even ordered food. A foreign concept, I know! You could eat em and scram if you were of the mind to. That was when people had more class than to get a little nudge of self congratulations…

Wtf are you talking about my guy. Subs are larger and carry more meat, so the sandwiches cost more. There’s no quality judgement in that statement (also weird to think of a sub roll as like some kind of luxury). It’s like saying a small coffee at Starbucks costs less than a large.

Starting to think maybe you’ve never been in a deli!

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