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Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

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post #41

Like Links[1] then? Really. I want Epiphany and Firefox to allow me turn off JavaScript like I can allow/disallow {Audio, Video, Webcam, Location, Notifications...}. The single wrong decision was following Google into that JS-Show. JS has it rationals, I'm using it as programmer sometimes. But JS was consider harmful for the reasons! Google intention was using JS for it's so called web-application/single-page-applica…

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Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

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post #68
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can the search boxes disappear? Aren’t they just plain HTML?

They don't render input elements (at least that is my understanding of the code): https://github.com/MasterQ32/kristall/blob/6b39f24484bb0796f... The GitHub notes that they only support a reduced set of HTML, but not which set it is. My guess is they do not support any interactivity related elements.

Ah thanks, that explains it! So it makes for quite a useless browser until and if they do.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#76
post #11

Does it know any new tricks that lynx can't do?

From what I can see it supports point and click via the mouse? I don't think lynx does. At least the few times I've used it I ended up using tab/cursor keys which gets a bit tedious.

links and links2 support the mouse

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#77
post #17
post #10

Like Lynx then?

Can Lynx render Gemini markup?

Is there anything on gemini other than people talking about gemini? Not trying to be facetious but last time I looked I couldn't find anything. I'm sort of directionally sympathetic to their goals so I want it to be a case where there is great stuff there that I just didn't know how to find.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#78
post #24

HN is the only place on the Internet where I hear about Gemini. Excluding Gemini itself. I'm all in for a simpler Internet, but on HTTP(S), with images and other media if needed

> but on HTTP(S),

Gemini is fully encrypted

It simply doesn't rely on the same chain the CIA and other agencies own

inline images are left to the client implementation.

Lagrange supports them, for example.

https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/tls-tutorial.gmi

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#79
post #24

HN is the only place on the Internet where I hear about Gemini. Excluding Gemini itself. I'm all in for a simpler Internet, but on HTTP(S), with images and other media if needed

Fully agree. I am also wondering why simplicity needs its own protocol here. Striving for simplicity is more a philosophical than a technical task. Edit: The creation of new protocols and technical solutions alone increases cognitive complexity. From this point of view, it is even counterproductive if existing solutions can enable the same.

I think perhaps having their own protocol serve to encapsulate the community interested in this particular form of simplicity.

Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites

#80

I have nitpicks and criticisms about Gemini, and it's not a protocol that I use very often (if at all), but I also don't see the harm in it. It seems to have a pretty strong grasp of what its goals are and (minor criticisms aside) it does a decent job of accomplishing those goals. Nowadays I tend to compare Gemini more to things like Pico-8 or Markdown rather than think of it as a web competitor -- and as a result I'…

I think of Gemini less like a competitor to the web but more as ham radio.

Radio amateurs can communicate through the internet with their phones and it would be faster, simpler and easier. But radio gives them both the nostalgia feeling and a niche community to belong.

Gemini is kinda like that.

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