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Re: Secondments at Zapier

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I read long ago: Firing someone is admitting to your second mistake. (Not being able to exploit the talents of someone you hired. The first mistake is hiring someone who you later have to fire.)

That's kind of a shitty saying. We all make mistakes but the way that's phrased makes it sound unforgivable. The ramifications of hiring are bigger than your everyday mistake but it still happens.

I guess it is bad if you are the manager who is responsible for both mistakes.

Otherwise, it is a reminder that it is a failure to hire someone that doesn't work out, and a failure to not be able to use someone as most people have some skills and firing someone is a very harsh thing to do both to the ex-employee in their ex co-workers.

Re: Secondments at Zapier

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> And we also realize a downturn is temporary. Wait, what? We're in a legitimate recession. Are they speaking about a recruiting downturn or an economic downturn here?

What about being a legitimate recession would prevent it from being temporary?

How far out do we want to go with this? Do we want to get insanely pedantic and state that the Ice Age was temporary? Would a years-long recession still amount to "temporary downturn"? The questions are ludicrous, including yours.

Re: Secondments at Zapier

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According to this, those 40 recruiters grew Zapier from 550 to 800 in 2022. So they added 250 staff with about 40 recruiters, or 6.25 new hires per recruiter. That means less than 1 new hire per recruiter per month. Gitlab target 4-5 new hires per recruiter per month as per https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/hiring/metrics/

Agree, especially for being a remote company, this number is extremely low. However, other parameters, like compensation, may be affecting their ability to hire.

Zapier pays at 90th market percentile.

Source: I work there, and our pay bands are all internally visible. The pay is quite good.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about being a legitimate recession would prevent it from being temporary?

How far out do we want to go with this? Do we want to get insanely pedantic and state that the Ice Age was temporary? Would a years-long recession still amount to "temporary downturn"? The questions are ludicrous, including yours.

The average length of recessions since WWII has been about 10 months. The longest was 18 months. Do you have any reason to think the next recession will be much longer than that?
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