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Re: NYC Slice

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Post by qbasic_forever »

alarge wrote: post #390
webkike wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Focaccia is basically pizza without the sauce so I'm not sure if the clarification is helpful? Wikipedia claims that some places even call focaccia pizza bianca

There is no way that New York style pizza can be compared to Focaccia. They have almost nothing in common. Now that Chicago thing, maybe. But as far as I'm concerned, that's not pizza.

No one said this was NY style. The original comment was lamenting that Pizza Hut pan pizza doesn't taste as good as it did in the 80s and 90s. I pointed out recipes that directly mimic that classic pan pizza style. Pizza Hut is not and has never claimed to be New York style pizza. It's an entirely different style that's neither New York nor Chicago style. It's closest to Detroit style pizza.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by hahamrfunnyguy »

Larrikin wrote: post #362
LarryMullins wrote: post #101

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Like out-of-towners asking which cheese steak shop in Philly is the best. The best is whichever corner shop is closest to you. If you're local and eat cheese steaks often, you don't drive all the way across the city to get such a lunch. You walk one or two blocks whichever shop you're near. But visitors want to experience the best, not experience it as a local would.

Random cheesesteaks in Philly are far better than random cheesesteaks in any other city, but I would never recommend a tourist to go to a random spot over one of the highly rated places. You'll just feel it was good but over hyped. It's a waste of time for someone who is there temporarily and doesn't live in the city. If you go to a place like Joe's you'll understand why the food became famous in the first place and…

I was in Philly a few years ago for a day trip and tried two different cheesesteaks. Both were fine, but they're not places I would ever seek out again.

I've definitely had better delicious hot steak sandwiches with cheese and toppings in other places. Maybe I was expecting something different, or maybe you've got a point?

Guess I'll have to get to Joe's if I am in Philly again!

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

freejazz wrote: post #256
mgce wrote: post #243

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They're perfectly legitimate spots. F&F is superior to nearly any place in the city, L'Industrie is fine. The others are also fine. Yes they're touristy, but so what? Outer-borough superiority is a myth. Most local outer-borough places are simply bad. This includes all the usual suspect neighborhoods: Belmont, Pelham Bay, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst, most of Staten Island, etc. The good places are the exception in the out…

I didn't say they were illegitimate. They are certainly pizza spots. Acting like it's not a good list because the poster didn't go to the top 5 most famous tourist traps for pizza is just indicating more on your part. >"Outer-borough superiority is a myth. Most local outer-borough places are simply bad. This includes all the usual suspect neighborhoods: Belmont, Pelham Bay, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst, most of Staten Isla…

You’re dismissing a very legitimate quality difference in inner vs outer boroughs. There’s like 3 or 4 notable places in outer Brooklyn (s/o krispy pizza) that can compete with the dozens of incredible slices in inner Brooklyn.

I’ve spent less time in Queens, but it seems Queens really does have a lot of great food outside of the hotspots.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

hparadiz wrote: post #349

Everyone is obsessed with NYC but these types of slices can be found in all the major east coast cities and is definitely one thing I miss about Philly. I'm in LA now and you'd think with how many Italians there are around here there'd be a higher standard but nope.

Philly and New Haven are basically the only 2 other cities that have solid “pizza cultures”. If you go to Baltimore, DC, or Boston you can’t get anything close to an NY slice without traveling significantly out of your way. Even then, the ubiquity of the NYC slice shop can’t be matched

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by probablynish »

pzone wrote: post #262
probablynish wrote: post #202

Reading Zvi's taxonomy of pizzas ( https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2017/03/17/restaurant-guide-2-p... ) was when I realized that NY style pizza is the type I love. Bookmarking this list to go through on a future trip to NYC!

This list is a bit idiosyncratic like one guy’s personal tastes. A lot of far away inconvenient locations. Personally I would suggest going to the fan favorites like scarr’s and L’Industrie instead. Bleecker Street is in the intersection of these strategies

Thanks for the tip. I probably should start with the fan favorites. I'll check those out when I'm next in new york!

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by TylerE »

guythedudebro wrote: post #392
bnralt wrote: post #374

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There are a number of foods that are supposedly only being amazing within a certain geographic location, but the best ones I've had were far outside if that location. The best shrimp poboy I had was in Tampa; nothing I could find in New Orleans even came close. There was a New York style pizza place in Shanghai which people that went back to America would talk about missing (better than any pizza I've had in NYC). An…

Was the pizza place in Washington 2Amys?

Best pizza I’ve ever had. Franks in New Haven is close, but just not that crazy about thin crust.

(Ironically, some of the worst “real” pizza I’ve had was at the Atlanta restaurant owned by someone whose “How to make real pizza” page gets posted here every year or two. Yea, it had a nice char but everything about it was just bland bland bland)

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

terran57 wrote: post #124

Been living in New York for the past 20+ years. Sadly, inflation has diminished the quality and quantity of the average corner pizza shop's slice. Yes, the Artichoke Basil slice the author refers to is much more expensive, but it's also bigger than the average slice of pizza in NYC - and the quality of ingredients seems better. The $1 slice shops (now more like the $1.50 slice shops) live on low margin and high volum…

Artichoke pizza is serviceable drunk food, but really not very good outside of that context.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by qbasic_forever »

silisili wrote: post #373
qbasic_forever wrote: post #58

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Pizza Hut pan pizza is the easiest pizza to make yourself at home. You don't need a stand mixer, it's a no knead recipe (long overnight rise builds all the gluten). You don't need a fancy super hot oven, it just cooks at 400 degrees F in a cast iron skillet. Give this recipe a shot, it's unbelievably good and very accessible: https://www.seriouseats.com/foolproof-pan-pizza-recipe or https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-srf…

My problem with homemade pizza was how much it costs. As someone who likes lots of toppings (pepperoni, sausage, olives, you name it), a pizza was costing me over $20 to make at home. At which point I guess I'd fail to see the point since it's now costing more and taking a lot of time.

Yeah although pickled or canned stuff like mushrooms, olives, etc. work great and you can just stockpile them in your pantry when you see them on sale. I usually make my pizzas with sausage instead of pepperoni because I find ground sausage cheaper than pepperoni. If you find stuff on sale all the core ingredients like cheese, sauce, etc. can last in your freezer for a long time.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

itissid wrote: post #138

Guys, The best pizza in NY is in NJ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/dining/razza-pizza-review... Dunno why it is not included in this list..

Never been to Razza, but Bread and Salt in Hoboken was among the best slices I’ve had

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by yunwal »

nobody9999 wrote: post #93
morley wrote: post #10

Notably absent from this list is L'Industrie in Williamsburg!

>Notably absent from this list is L'Industrie in Williamsburg! As an old guy, I try to avoid Hipster doofus land^W^W^W Williamsburg as much as possible. YMMV

Williamsburg is what fidi used to be. No hipsters in sight really
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