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Any issues you have, you should read the study listed above. Gather what you want from it, believe what makes sense to you. It doesn’t matter to our mission. EDIT: regarding our marketing, I’ve cited our source.
I hope this service succeeds but that particular claim, especially in the light of the articles you shared, makes you seem untrustworthy.
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I hope this service succeeds but that particular claim, especially in the light of the articles you shared, makes you seem untrustworthy.
How is NAAG disreputable?
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How is NAAG disreputable?
You can’t make everyone happy.
Like lol what a silly premise. “Look to your left, look to your right, if you can’t find revenge porn of either of these people, there’s revenge porn of you! We don’t think this applies to the billions of people that don’t speak English or live in Europe, but we have very enlightened definitions of ‘percentage’ and ‘people’”
So the cloud providers will:
- make bank from the social networks hosting your content/likeness
- make bank from the offensive/exploitation AIs trying to exploit your content/likeness for gain
- make bank from the detection/defensive AIs looking for exploits of your content/likeness
The laws will never catch up.
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I just don't feel like your motives can possibly be aligned with victims if you're trying to make money off victims. RE: DMCA abuse, it's probably within the letter of the law, the law itself is broken. Bonus question: How does this all deal with twins? What's the miss rate on facial recognition anyway?
We're partnered with RAINN and other sexual abuse agencies to give victims in extreme situations free access to our site. Our alignment isn't perfect but we are working to be a useful tool at a low cost. Some things provide a social good but also have expenses, this happens to be one of them. Doctors charge patients, lawyers charge their clients and we aren't anywhere near those margins. EDIT: Twins are still a weak…
Instead of a bunch of happy customers of your service, you are going to see people complain constantly about your product and consider you a "protection racket". You are also going to find yourself in the situation where the people you are helping are claiming you are "in cahoots" with the porn companies, particularly when they realize that they have to keep paying your subscription fee in order to avoid their stuff being posted again and again to different sites.
Some things are just asking for a world of hurt, and you need to really really play up the charity angle here and frankly attempt to fund as much of this as possible off of people who aren't the victims you are trying to protect or from a narrative perspective--which a lot of people don't spend enough time analyzing--you are going to spend the rest of your existence playing defense against your own target market feeling like you are part of their problem.
(My credentials here, with respect to talking about "narratives": I'm a well-known engineer who used to spend a lot of time attempting to correct the story developers would tell around jailbreaking and piracy--in some cases due to the mere word "jailbreaking", which I had not myself chosen as I wasn't there at the beginning--and who later went into politics and has been an elected government official in a dense college community for the past five years.)
How do you confirm the identity of your customer to ensure your DMCA takedown notices are legitimate? How do you programmatically discern between non-consensual adult images being shared against the subject's wishes versus images where they are somewhere public, don't own the copyright to the photo, but the law does not require the copyright holder remove or take down the image? Cool idea, might need to pivot, regard…
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So you work for this company and your opinion that it’s 33% of english-speaking and european people? Napkin math puts the number of victims at ~400 million (population of europe + north america/3), maybe double that if you charitably count all of Africa being “english speaking”.
Any issues you have, you should read the study listed above. Gather what you want from it, believe what makes sense to you. It doesn’t matter to our mission. EDIT: regarding our marketing, I’ve cited our source.
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We're partnered with RAINN and other sexual abuse agencies to give victims in extreme situations free access to our site. Our alignment isn't perfect but we are working to be a useful tool at a low cost. Some things provide a social good but also have expenses, this happens to be one of them. Doctors charge patients, lawyers charge their clients and we aren't anywhere near those margins. EDIT: Twins are still a weak…
So, I do understand that it costs you money, but I'm agreeing with thot_experiment: it doesn't feel right, at least for the "victims of NCII" use case (as opposed to the "creator" use case with the $100/mo plan... I frankly think the pricing there is a bit high, but hopefully you've talked with enough sex workers to verify that works for them; honestly, if your website were focused more on that use case, and downplay…
As far as $100/mo for creators, they typically have to pay $300-$400/mo for DMCA services that make the creators bring them links. We find the content and provide a self-serve portal which is all that’s needed for most major sites. So we are dramatically cheaper than the current offering.
The $25/mo plan is more or less a reflection of rising costs with everything. We do have to hire data scientist, data engineers, software engineers, design, marketing and infrastructure. It may be easy to build this for a single site but if people knew how long it took a $35k A100 to watch a single minute of video and realize there are millions of minutes of video to watch, $25/mo (cancel whenever from the portal) feels like a pretty good deal. I’m open but you would be surprised at how expensive this is.
In an ideal world, we make enough off creators to offer it for free to victims of NCII. Right now, we are self funded and hundreds of thousands of dollars in so we can’t adhere to the normal SV economics of giving it away for free, even if we want to.
All of this to not lose the point that we really enjoyed your feedback and there is a lot you’ve given us to think about.