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Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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These have always been an enormous waste of time from my perspective. They only serve to make a manager feel like they know what everyone is doing, all the time. Anything process-wise should be handled through scrum. Anything personal can be handled with ad-hoc 1-on-1 meetings as needed, but should be pretty rare. 1-on-1s for process really do harm to transparency and accountability. If I had a nickel for every time…

> ad-hoc 1-on-1 meetings as needed, but should be pretty rare.

That is exactly why ongoing meetings are important. If you only do rare ad-hoc meetings, you have established a relationship where you don't talk to your boss. Everything runs through processes, everything seems fine, you guys don't talk... until one day you need a talk and it is a big change to the status quo.

If you don't get value from regular 1:1s, fine - make them a 30 second pit stop of, "Everything is still fine, talk to you in 2 weeks". But you really should have that ongoing quick check so that you have an established point in time to change your answer and say, "We need to talk about X."

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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There are several ways in which you could approach this. First, it is a growth opportunity for both you and your manager.

. It is your time with the manager and not the other way. So you drive this meeting.

. It is a great opportunity to build/reinforce trust (both ways) so do not cancel them unless it is an emergency, on vacation, etc.

. Always set an agenda ahead of time and share with the manager.

. Since you seem to have a weekly 30 minutes, do not always talk about projects/operational things. It will soon get boring and you will feel like canceling the meetings.

. Is your manager open to feedback? Share where they excel. Share what you have learned from them. Also share when you expected something different than their exhibited behavior and show genuine care to understand why they did what they did (of course in a more conversational empathetic way).

These things go a long way in building trust, engagement, and relationship. A good manager will also grow from these interactions and perhaps implement similar style with other direct reports.

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Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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Just got 2.7% for my title bump. Hurray.

As a hack on this, when negotiating to join a company, you generally want to be at {highest title} + {lowest on pay band for that title}. Sometimes specific title requirements preclude this (e.g. "We don't give new people X title immediately"), but it's a good rule of thumb. It makes yearly pay bumps much easier for your manager to justify ("So-and-so is well within salary ranges for their title"), versus them having…

> {highest title} + {lowest on pay band for that title}.

People would find out about this and would leave resenting that they are underpaid.

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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In brief: 1. What worries you? Not some blatant project stuff but bigger deal issues. "How do I learn enough here to make a lot more money in a few years" or "I don't understand how our product is going to make money in this environment". Stuff like that is probably on your mind in some way (unless you are an unthinking dolt, but you wouldn't be asking this if you were) - get it out there and gain perspective. 2. Bli…

Blind spots is a really good suggestion. I'm going to use that during my next 1:1. :)

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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Manager perspective here.

1) Best thing you can do is understand the "why" for decisions you don't agree with. I find people get grumpy and quit because they don't like decisions being made, but are surprisingly timid to ask "why". Sometimes they have made an assumption that isn't true, which makes them feel like the company is making bad decisions, when it's actually a bad mental model of the goals. You might need to ask "why" a few times to get to real reason (see "7 whys"). Asking "why" can lead to a few results:

- The ICs know something I don't, we're making a mistake, and by asking "why are we doing X??" we catch and fix a big problem much earlier.

- The IC isn't aligned to some macro strategy. They think Y is the most important thing, but in reality, no one cares about Y, and the whole team/company will succeed or fail based on X. Some people struggle hearing this message, but if we can get on same page, they understand "X is what really matters", and start operating with that understanding, it's one of the real ways we can 10x a person's output. They don't write 10x the code, but they work on 10x more important problems, and even their small decisions that are more aligned with the macro goals. ICs who are fighting the macro strategy in every small tactics debate can derail a team -- if you really want to fight it, it should be a dedicated conversation with your manager/leadership team, not every code review/meeting.

- If you get an honest "why", and it really doesn't align with your morals/goals, might be time to look elsewhere. This might be "we're doing this because our VP wants a promo" or "I'm not sure, but product asked us to and eng can't challenge them" or "just make this change so Alameda can bypass risk assessments"

Getting to a shared "why we do what we do" can take quite a few 1:1s, but is super worth it. The people who don't get there usually end up leaving, and usually do so crankily. The people who get there are happier, more productive, and once they fully grok the current strategy they are more likely to be able to influence the long term strategy for the better.

2) Development and long term career goals:

- Format: save a 1:1 every quarter (or so) to go over this in detail. Don't cover anything else in these meetings, and don't try to make this 5 minutes at the end of every 1:1.

- Keep it prioritized: Keep a note of things you want to talk about in next career focused, append to it, and read/review/edit it before the meeting so it's really a stacked list of what's important, not just what's top of mind.

- Be direct: tell them when you expect your next promotion -- your manager should know your expectations and are't always smart enough to ask. If you close but not guaranteed a promo next cycle, and your manager knows you are expecting they can help fine-tune your output with remaining time (and their representation of you). If you're not close and you are expecting it, you should have that conversation sooner rather than later.

3) Complaining

Complaining in a 1:1 can be pretty healthy if done well, and pretty toxic if done poorly.

- Do bring your top concerns to your manager, and ask for help fixing them. Managers should help fix many, and will sometimes need to explain that this one isn't one we can fix, but always worth talking about what is bothering you most over time.

- Prioritize: Don't bring a bunch of concerns to your manager just because they are "top of mind". I've had employees spend the first two thirds of every 1:1 telling me about a concern, and after 20 minutes of probing, realized: they are aware of how to solve it, they have it covered, and are just taking about it because it was the topic of the last meeting they got out of. 1:1 time is valuable, please make sure it's prioritized.

- Do feel free to just vent to your manager when you're super annoyed. That's cathartic, and can be a safe space to complain and get it all out. They might add a strategy to help, of fix a mis-aligned "why", but just venting for the sake of venting is find too if that's what you need most (it often is). Smart managers will probe to see "is this a vent problem or a fix problem", but smart ICs will start it off by saying "I know we have to to this, I know why, I just want to vent about X because it's really bugging me". A good manager should be able to listen and shut up for these when needed.

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think you understand what a good 1:1 is. If you think a 1:1 is a secret meeting to tell you secrets, you have no clue. I’d suggest reading up on it somewhere, for example Claire at knowyourteam has some blogs and ebooks that give a high level.

Ah but if you give (or force) people the opportunity to do the wrong thing, they will almost invariably do it, best of intentions or otherwise. HR stuff gets exhausted soon enough, and then you are back to operational matters and the problems begin. I'm sure there are lots of blogs and ebooks about 1:1s, but I doubt they approach them with the requisite critical mindset for a clear view, given that they themselves ar…

I'm not sure I follow, but I am glad you are not my manager.

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a hack on this, when negotiating to join a company, you generally want to be at {highest title} + {lowest on pay band for that title}. Sometimes specific title requirements preclude this (e.g. "We don't give new people X title immediately"), but it's a good rule of thumb. It makes yearly pay bumps much easier for your manager to justify ("So-and-so is well within salary ranges for their title"), versus them having…

> {highest title} + {lowest on pay band for that title}. People would find out about this and would leave resenting that they are underpaid.

Not sure you're understanding the point: it's something you, as the employee, request when you're negotiating being hired.

Your hiring manager usually doesn't care, as long as there aren't any req:title limitation issues, because it attracts you and generates less paperwork on their side.

Re: Ask HN: What do you talk about in 1-on-1s with your managers?

#280
post #7

These have always been an enormous waste of time from my perspective. They only serve to make a manager feel like they know what everyone is doing, all the time. Anything process-wise should be handled through scrum. Anything personal can be handled with ad-hoc 1-on-1 meetings as needed, but should be pretty rare. 1-on-1s for process really do harm to transparency and accountability. If I had a nickel for every time…

With ad-hoc meetings, people can be overly cautious: "maybe this is not that important", "maybe my manager is busy".

With periodic 1:1s, the manager has already allocated time to listen to you, so it's easier to talk about what's going on: sometimes it's important stuff, others not that much, but there's communication.

However, it can get bad if people wait for the 1:1s to address important which should be taken care of before.

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