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Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

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Post by ceejayoz »

dx034 wrote: post #39
kzrdude wrote: post #37

ATC can tell pilots what they need to know, right?

The question is, how will ATC know? I'm not that familiar with their systems, but maybe they rely on them to get critical information?

ATC will be fine to get everyone on the ground safely. There are procedures for everything including ATC itself being down.

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

#43

Post by srmarm »

dx034 wrote: post #38

There's a ground stop for all flights now. GROUND STOP ALL FLIGHTS / ALL DESTINATIONS EXCLUDES MILITARY AC AND MEDEVAC FLIGHTS DESTINATION AIRPORT; ALL FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL GROUND STOP PERIOD: UNTIL 1430Z REASON: EQUIPMENT OUTAGE REMARKS: US NOTAMS SYSTEM DOWN

This might be a silly question, but is that a NOTAM saying that NOTAM system is down? How does it get out?

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

#44

Post by zrail »

srmarm wrote: post #43
dx034 wrote: post #38

There's a ground stop for all flights now. GROUND STOP ALL FLIGHTS / ALL DESTINATIONS EXCLUDES MILITARY AC AND MEDEVAC FLIGHTS DESTINATION AIRPORT; ALL FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL GROUND STOP PERIOD: UNTIL 1430Z REASON: EQUIPMENT OUTAGE REMARKS: US NOTAMS SYSTEM DOWN

This might be a silly question, but is that a NOTAM saying that NOTAM system is down? How does it get out?

As I understand it there's a hotline and periodic teleconferences and webinars today that for sure everyone at the airlines is participating it.

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

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Post by ceejayoz »

srmarm wrote: post #43
dx034 wrote: post #38

There's a ground stop for all flights now. GROUND STOP ALL FLIGHTS / ALL DESTINATIONS EXCLUDES MILITARY AC AND MEDEVAC FLIGHTS DESTINATION AIRPORT; ALL FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL GROUND STOP PERIOD: UNTIL 1430Z REASON: EQUIPMENT OUTAGE REMARKS: US NOTAMS SYSTEM DOWN

This might be a silly question, but is that a NOTAM saying that NOTAM system is down? How does it get out?

The website and the system that gets it out to all the planes are related but not the same.

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

#46

Post by dx034 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #41
dx034 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, how will ATC know? I'm not that familiar with their systems, but maybe they rely on them to get critical information?

ATC will be fine to get everyone on the ground safely. There are procedures for everything including ATC itself being down.

I never doubted that. The question is if they could've worked without a ground stop by having ATC give them all info.

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

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Post by nkcmr »

Why do all aviation IT systems feel like they are so fragile?

It feels like not a single month can pass these days without some "Airline X has major outage and ruins tons of people's days!" story on the news.

What is the tech behind these frail systems?

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

#48

Post by xattt »

chucksmash wrote: post #15

Updated title from "FAA Ground Stop for All North America Flights Due to NOTAM Outage" to reflect comments that initial title was not accurate.

Confusing title, as Canadian departures with Canadian destinations do not appear to be affected.

Re: FAA NOTAM System Outage

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Post by capekwasright »

srmarm wrote: post #43
dx034 wrote: post #38

There's a ground stop for all flights now. GROUND STOP ALL FLIGHTS / ALL DESTINATIONS EXCLUDES MILITARY AC AND MEDEVAC FLIGHTS DESTINATION AIRPORT; ALL FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL GROUND STOP PERIOD: UNTIL 1430Z REASON: EQUIPMENT OUTAGE REMARKS: US NOTAMS SYSTEM DOWN

This might be a silly question, but is that a NOTAM saying that NOTAM system is down? How does it get out?

This is an Air Traffic Control System Command Center (ATCSCC) advisory: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=28&adv_dat...
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