Python 2 removed from Debian • Hacker News Board

Re: Python 2 removed from Debian

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Post by toyg » Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 8:48 AM UTC

tolmasky wrote: post #357

_eht wrote: post #354

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This is such an odd and entitled take for a person who is really trying hard not to care about python.

It's as if JavaScript had shipped a non-compatible update, browsers had on a magic day stopped supporting the old JavaScript, and all of a sudden her crossword website stopped working because that site's developer didn't update the JavaScript. This grandma sure complains a lot about broken websites for someone who supposedly doesn't know what JavaScript is. What an entitled grandma. Why doesn't she just build Linux f…

Welcome to the magic world of CSS.

Re: Python 2 removed from Debian

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Post by wheelerof4te » Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 11:44 AM UTC

bloblaw wrote: post #501

jeroenhd wrote: post #500

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If you just want to write a script, you likely know the version available on your system. When in doubt, add the #!/bin/env python3.10 shebang to the top of your script to ensure the version it's running on is the same as the version you're writing the script for. If I build an application on Linux I need to specify a glibc version or a PHP version or a Java version in some way as well. I don't see what this has to d…

> Good luck running a jar built with JDK19 on JRE8, or an executable linked against glibc2.36 on Ubuntu 18, or a Python file written for Python 3.10 on a system that comes with Python 3.6. Yes, you are starting to see the problem. This is why I recommend statically compiled binaries as a solution to this scenario, and do not recommend any of the above. Here's a real scenario I've had in my career, when deploying a sc…

The only useful feature from that list are F-strings, which goes to show what joke of a language Python has become.

Re: Python 2 removed from Debian

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Post by charlieyu1 » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 7:11 AM UTC

tolmasky wrote: post #357

_eht wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such an odd and entitled take for a person who is really trying hard not to care about python.

It's as if JavaScript had shipped a non-compatible update, browsers had on a magic day stopped supporting the old JavaScript, and all of a sudden her crossword website stopped working because that site's developer didn't update the JavaScript. This grandma sure complains a lot about broken websites for someone who supposedly doesn't know what JavaScript is. What an entitled grandma. Why doesn't she just build Linux f…

Backward compatibility is not free, it would eventually become bloat that is too big to fix. MS Windows and Office for example, and Adobe Flash was killed for good. I’m sure you can find a lot of examples.