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In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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Solar + cheap storage should be the new default for the entire second/ third world. Basically, you can't rely on your central corrupt government? Well, you don't have to! With starlink the third world will have options for internet too. Now, starlink probably can't serve billions of people, but it can still be an option, especially for rural.

what’s the cheapest storage someone can get these days?

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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It really does look like we need two forms of infrastructure in our society just like software, central and distributed. Atleast in the less developed parts of the world.

I grew up in that part of the world too and our government completely failed to provide basic electricity and everyone resorted to either solar or generators.

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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Basically, Lebanon had 30 years to figure out how to build basic infrastructure like a proper electrical grid and production (from 1990, the end of the civil war to present). Instead, crooks, thieves and fraudsters figured out how to bilk the nation of billions while leaving subpar services in their wake. My parents have had solar thermal collectors for hot water on their roof in Lebanon for 3 decades now... other th…

They do this in Israel too. The solar powered hot water heaters work wonderfully.

However now with many more highrises being built they no longer are as popular and we are forced to use electric heaters.

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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post #13

Basically, Lebanon had 30 years to figure out how to build basic infrastructure like a proper electrical grid and production (from 1990, the end of the civil war to present). Instead, crooks, thieves and fraudsters figured out how to bilk the nation of billions while leaving subpar services in their wake. My parents have had solar thermal collectors for hot water on their roof in Lebanon for 3 decades now... other th…

My energy prices quadrupled thanks to Putin but at least the system has a 99.99% reliability.

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

#26

Solar + cheap storage should be the new default for the entire second/ third world. Basically, you can't rely on your central corrupt government? Well, you don't have to! With starlink the third world will have options for internet too. Now, starlink probably can't serve billions of people, but it can still be an option, especially for rural.

what’s the cheapest storage someone can get these days?

Maybe used cells out of a crashed Nissan Leaf?

For new cells, probably the best option is to try and find a good deal on LFP cells, though in the U.S. at least they tend to be really overpriced. A BMS will be needed too.

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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Solar + cheap storage should be the new default for the entire second/ third world. Basically, you can't rely on your central corrupt government? Well, you don't have to! With starlink the third world will have options for internet too. Now, starlink probably can't serve billions of people, but it can still be an option, especially for rural.

what’s the cheapest storage someone can get these days?

Non-lithium energy storage is probably the best theoretically, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_battery

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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post #13

Basically, Lebanon had 30 years to figure out how to build basic infrastructure like a proper electrical grid and production (from 1990, the end of the civil war to present). Instead, crooks, thieves and fraudsters figured out how to bilk the nation of billions while leaving subpar services in their wake. My parents have had solar thermal collectors for hot water on their roof in Lebanon for 3 decades now... other th…

Are heat pumps common in Lebanon?

Re: In Lebanon, solar power is booming

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I hail from a Tier 3 city in India [a]. Due to mismgmt. or exorbitant electricity prices, several folks would end up stealing electricity from the main line.

Electricity distribution companies would keep on increasing prices to make up for lost revenue from stealing. On other hand, stealing kept on increasing.

In recent years, huge chunk of public have pivoted to installing solar panels for water heater etc. When I was a kid, solar water heater was found only on upper middle and politician's home. Now it's very common. This is welcome progress and inadvertent good for environment since the real motivation is to free self from manipulation of electricity companies.

a. Tier 1 would be state capitals, Tier 2 would be prominent cities in that state, Tier 3 would be rest of district headquarters.

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