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I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Post by kybernetikos »

agumonkey wrote: post #252
jmuguy wrote: post #84

When I was younger I learned that loaning money to friends, and then asking to be repaid, sucks. You're made to feel like you're some sort of Scrooge character. Now I either simply give whatever is asked, and make it clear I do not wish to be paid back, or just say no. Initially it seemed logical to say OK you need 100 bucks for this or that and you'll get me back. But then a month later I'd mention it and was met wi…

Money is a very very subtle topic between humans. I live where I was a born, so naturally, all elders needing a hand for whatever (mostly computing obv.) get my assistance. They always want to pay or they feel really really bad. Reminds me I need to read graeber's book about non currency debts.. it seems to discuss these relationships.

He tells an interesting story of a relationship between two vikings, where one receives an impressive gift from his friend, and immediately sets out to kill him, because there's no way he's going to spend a week (or however long) writing the kind of epic poetry that such a gift would deserve. I think in the end he misses him, and has to go home and write the poem.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Post by latchkey »

poisonarena wrote: post #339
latchkey wrote: post #335

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I got downvoted for my response asking for clarification, classic HN. My tenure was more than a decade ago, but the space was on 11th and folsom and has brick walls on the inside. The space next to the corner venue. It has been several different venues since I had it.

ahh I guess mine too, I was DJ'ing/LivePA from 2008-2011 at clubs all over SF. Seems like a lifetime ago. Was also the doorguy/email boy at Vessel SF when it existed. Was a really fun time to be in SF, I had a room at 16th + mission for 450 a month. I got to experience so many different types of weird nightclub culture, every from live electronic music, to weird burning man crowds, gay italo disco parties, hip hop/tu…

I started clubbing and raving in SF around 1994. I definitely saw everything you noted, but much earlier versions of it all. I'm glad you had such great experiences. The whole lifestyle of everything in SF opened my mind more than I care to even admit.

In fact, the scene changed and morphed a lot over the years. While I'm sure that people will find ways to have their own kinds of fun, I don't think it'll ever get repeated in the same way again. Mostly because of the fact that we all have phone/cameras along with social influencers now... it changed everything, and that's ok too. It'll be interesting to see how to changes again in the next decade or so.

My ownership period was more in the 1999-2005 range, so you were just after that by a few years.

Thanks for sharing your story.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Post by Consultant32452 »

roflyear wrote: post #337
Consultant32452 wrote: post #336

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You loan someone money not expecting them to pay it back, you never bring it up or bother them, they decide to leave your life forever. You are the bad guy. Only on the internet.

No... if you have some messed up system that involved that process to filter people from your life, you're the bad guy, yeah. Not just on the internet, either.

It's not a "system" that anyone designed. It's an emergent property of helping people who ask for it.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Post by RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #239
RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm wrote: post #200

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It's the view of someone who has lost over $10k to "I'll pay it back!!!" people - they haven't payed back in 10 years now. And they left behind truckloads of trash. How much have you lost to those? I would speculate once you get to a sum this significant your perspective would change ;)

If someone asks me for money I make it clear they aren't obligated to pay it back at all or in full. In this way I have never "lost" money only given it away. Well over $10k in any year I was adequately employed. Less in others but still tens of dollars here and there even when I was homeless. It's never been hard to find people who seem more in need of it than I am.

'If there is a fire hazard in my house, I simply burn it down myself. In this way I have never "lost" a house due to a fire hazard.'
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