So what exactly are they buying here? It's hard for me to believe they're offering 10 billion for some neural network weights.
Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT
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#272What tech does OpenAI actually have? I thought GPT was most of the smarts and the website was just VC money to burn through cloud resources. I'd think Google can do the same but realize the compute costs just make it too expensive.
Ostensibly it is ChatGPT, but this is likely the consumer grade version released to create the illusion that the AI will be a public good to garner public support for it. The unbounded and more useful engines are only accessible by insiders.
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#273Does MS think they have a big moat in these? It won't be long until we have an open version , and although they need a lot of compute , maybe in 1-2 years they ll have come down in size enough to be usable. Is it the training data?
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This is a pretty bad take. The mobile market is much larger precisely because they AREN'T computers. They are mobile companions. But you don't do the same things on a computer and on a mobile phone. Who edits their movies on a phone? Who codes on a phone? Who writes their PhD thesis on a phone? You will be hard pressed to find professionals who do these things. Because a phone is not a computer.
The main usage of computers even before mobile phones was to browse the web, read and write emails and play games. Web and mail is mostly done on phones now. Not sure about games. The use cases you mention are much smaller. Steve Jobs had the right analogy: Tablets are cars, desktop computers are trucks. Few people use trucks. Most use cars.
There is absolutely no one I know who uses a tablet as their primary work computer. No one. That analogy instantly breaks down because of this. As if everyone drives to work primarily using their trucks.
The even more sad thing is that the iPad hardware is absolutely capable to be the primary computer for people. It's simply Apples refusal to allow a real OS to run on it that keeps holding it back.
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#275I notice a few people lamenting that OpenAI will no longer be... open. But I have to wonder, in what sense is OpenAI open today ? In 2019, OpenAI transitioned from non-profit to for-profit. At that time, Microsoft invested US$1 billion into the company. OpenAI then announced its intention to commercially license its technologies.
Don't forget its ever increasing wack a mole game of non-openness in regards to censorship, wrongthink and pornography.
> Don't forget its ever increasing wack a mole game of non-openness in regards to censorship, wrongthink and pornography.
That's because they want to make money, good luck attracting investors when your tool lists benefits of Nazi ideology or generates minor porn novels.
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#276ChatGPT has progressively got worse due to all the restrictions.
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Nah -- this sounds like Google buying YouTube or Android for billions while they were in their infancy but had proven tech. People did say at the time Google overpaid but they were some of the wisest investments Google ever made. I hope Microsoft don't buy them and OpenAI just becomes another FANG.
FANGO, then?
Replace the F from Facebook with the M from Meta and now we can have "MANGO" which is an acronym that would absolutely catch.
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Don't forget its ever increasing wack a mole game of non-openness in regards to censorship, wrongthink and pornography.
> Don't forget its ever increasing wack a mole game of non-openness in regards to censorship, wrongthink and pornography. That's because they want to make money, good luck attracting investors when your tool lists benefits of Nazi ideology or generates minor porn novels.
I think it's still crazy that in 2022 the fact that some stupid people can be offended by that have that much importance.
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What's the path to monetization for Microsoft for OpenAI/ChatGPT?
I would pay a monthly subscription for it.
To me the subscription model is the best for consumers but there's probably way more money in monetizing the responses with advertorials.
Me: what's the best camera?
"Don't have opinions but Canon XJ blah blah has blah and blah..
*Advertising why we can't have anything nice....
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> Don't forget its ever increasing wack a mole game of non-openness in regards to censorship, wrongthink and pornography. That's because they want to make money, good luck attracting investors when your tool lists benefits of Nazi ideology or generates minor porn novels.
I think it's still crazy that in 2022 the fact that some stupid people can be offended by that have that much importance.
eh, it's all PR, no one really wants to be associated with that, one of the reasons why Apple forced Tumblr to remove porn which in turn decimated Tumblr's user base.