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Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by tenpies »

bigboy12 wrote: post #191
curiousmindz wrote: post #124

I expect this deal to be a must for Microsoft. OpenAI is probably very happy to raise the stakes as much as possible. So we will see how many billions Microsoft ends up paying for this. Still, is there a world in which we look back 10 years from now and think that we were overvaluing the impact of AI? (For example, this did happen with tablets, when people thought that the iPad would replace "computers"...)

Another example of Microsoft purchasing what’s “trendy” and “ cool” to be relevant. They just buy hot tech and do nothing with it.

To be fair, sometimes that is all that it takes.

LinkedIn is after all still effectively a monopoly.

And it's not just Microsoft. Whatsapp is another "do nothing" example that comes to mind where the work was done on the backend, but the app is functionally just as awful as it was when it became the de-facto messaging app for most of the world.

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

fsloth wrote: post #192

$10 Bilion for the non-ruling half of OpenAI? Impresssive. As a reference Microsoft paid $7.2 billion for the entire handset business of Nokia (which was floundering at the time, but still).

What's the path to monetization for Microsoft for OpenAI/ChatGPT?

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Post by epolanski »

TekMol wrote: post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

Microsoft definitely went in the right direction in the last decade and I think it has been the wisest of the big tech corps in US.

They struck a bingo if they acquire 49% in chatgpt.

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Post by Karunamon »

capableweb wrote: post #183
noobermin wrote: post #166

I'm becoming convinced that the "Microsoft is a good guy now" narrative was just a narrative, they still are the same company they always were.

Then you're wrong, Microsoft (or any company for that matter) have never been like people that you can judge like "good" or "bad". They are businesses, whose purpose is to make money. They do whatever seems best to do at the time in order to optimize most money earned. The same every single public company does, all the time.

This is pretty reductive since businesses are made up of people who can make good and bad decisions. The "maximize shareholder value" imperative has never been successfully read so strictly against a company that it prevented them from pursuing other goals; as an example Tim Cook rather infamously told an Apple activist investor representative that they should "get out of this stock" "if they only want them to do things for ROI reasons" [1].

So no, we can and should hold the companies accountable for the bad they do and praise the good.

[1]:https://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/tim-cook-soundly-rej...

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Post by kornhole »

This is a great conversation, but I need to switch back over to my work issued machine and generate more content in Office365 to feed the models.

O365, Linkedin, Xbox, Github, and other data factories have been generating a ton of data for years. Although many of us try to keep our coms private, we are forced to use their platforms at work.

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Post by ben_w »

wodenokoto wrote: post #189
fzimmermann wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the parent in the most favorable light: "Attention is all you need" can be seen as a fundamental paper for the current LLM generation, which indeed came out of google brain..

Okay, by that logic they also invented search.

If you like. (Larry) PageRank being so much better than the previous best is why Google became the megacorp it is today.

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

The usual clique showing once again that when they present something with positive goals it's always a thin smoke screen for their greed and that their parole has no value whatsoever. So much for “the non profit for the benefit of humanity as a whole unconstrained by a need to generate financial return”.

At least, you can make fun of them looking at their silly announcement and unfortunate choice of name. That would be fun if it wasn’t so predictable and sad.

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