Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by jacooper » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:00 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #147

ben_w wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeepMind, and by extension AlphaGo, AlphaFold, AlphaStar, AlphaCode. Google Brain, and by extension the Transformer model (~which is the T in GPT~ my bad, it's Generative PreTraining, not General Purpose Transformer), and TensorFlow. Waymo, which is rolling out robotaxis in a few places. Not sure which department or subsidiary is responsible for their TPUs, the Sycamore 53-qbit quantum processor, or LaMDA.

I have not used any of those. Waymo, ok, I don't live in that area. How can I try any of the other projects you listed?

That's the difference, google is shy to open any of their AI projects.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by visarga » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:00 PM UTC

super256 wrote: post #126

I wonder if OpenAI will make more revenue than Minecraft over the next decade.

I wonder if GPT models will have more impact than Minecraft over the next decade.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by la64710 » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:00 PM UTC

Question to AI/ML folks : Is there no comparable open source model? Is the future going to be controlled by big corporations who own the models themselves? If models are so computationally intensive to produce does it mean than the more computational power a company has the better its models will be?

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by drKarl » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

So we will now have Cortana(TM) powered by OpenAI and Clippy will be resurrected, powered by OpenAI.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by LegitShady » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #127

Kukumber wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they back when the only thing they manage to do is "pump money into already successful things" To me this is a sign they are no longer able to compete and are failing back, the only growth they expect is from acquisitions This is not looking good

How does it matter if a company buys or builds new projects? Betting on the right things is a hugely valuable skill. See Android, Youtube, Instagram, Tesla ... All projects that someone believed in, bought them, put money in, and then they became huge.

>How does it matter if a company buys or builds new projects?

How does it not matter? It's like convincing yourself that since you can order delivery food you're a chef. Being able to produce new ideas that appeal to people is the sought after skill Microsoft is literally paying for with money from their entrenched positions that are failing to make anything new and appealing. Buying things is a skill all companies have and Microsoft is not skilled for spending money to buy ideas they can't come up with

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by norswap » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #125

TekMol wrote: post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

Ironic you say this given that Google is the one to invent language models to begin with and GitHub was an acquisition. I personally don’t think there have been any amazing consumer tech breakthroughs by any big tech in the last 5 years.

Some of Google's biggest successes are YouTube and Android, which were both acquisitions.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by lordleft » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:02 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

I started listening to the Microsoft-centric "Windows Weekly" podcast when I was a teenager 15 years ago. I have been always fascinated by Microsoft as a technology giant and never understood the vibe I got from others in the industry that MS was a musty corp past its heyday. It had gobs of money, a focus on developers and an organization maturity that gives it a serious advantage. This is not to say that MS is perfect, but counting it out like so many others is baffling to me.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by williamcotton » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:02 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

Microsoft is killing it these days and Satya Nadella deserves a lot of credit! This is not the same Gates/Ballmer play as the 90s.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:03 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

They're back to wanting to dominate every market possible.

They're well into the "extend" stage for Linux. Trying to corner and ultimately monopolise the console gaming market.

Now they want to monopolise LLMs as much as possible.

Not sure this is a good thing

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by verisimi » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 3:03 PM UTC

So ClosedAI is up for sale! Say, it ain't so...

I still love this protocol exchange b/w Altman and Zuckerborg: https://www.facebook.com/YCombinator/videos/1015399369382910...

They're so different, right? One wears Nike the other Asics! One wears a light grey t-shirt, the other dark!