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Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Great…now OpenAI will become Microsoft Cortana SkyNet ClosedAI. Somehow I doubt this will lead to a safe rollout of more and more advanced AI in the future.

Given that AI ethics is already a huge and growing problem, perhaps it's good that OpenAI's tech would be dismissed as just another tool for corporate control over our lives.

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So I guess we can remove the "Open" in OpenAI then?

It was always "Open" for business and just a generic prefix to slap onto things.

Yeah, I hate when companies name products or themselves like that. It's just a matter of time before it is the reverse.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Language models predate Google by 10+ years. I found references dating as far as 1987. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22language+model%22+&h...

Reading the parent in the most favorable light: "Attention is all you need" can be seen as a fundamental paper for the current LLM generation, which indeed came out of google brain..

Ok, so you restrict the definition to transformers. The people who invented the transformers left Google years ago, making their own startups. Only one still works at Google. That means Google doesn't have the most creative researchers anymore.

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Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

Google has built lots of services in the last 5 years, but it has killed them few months after. Instead Microsoft has bought lots of services (GitHub, Skype), but also some stuff that Microsoft has built from scratch hasn’t been very successful, like Cortana or windows for ARM.

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Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

VSCode, Minecraft, Teams. They have renewed their grip on several audiences.

Kids have moved on to Roblox, Minecraft is the old thing now. Roblox has far better monetized its game than Minecraft too (some might say Roblox has gone too far monetizing it). Minecraft has gone the way of every Microsoft acquisition--stagnated and bled talent while competitors continued to innovate.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode, Minecraft, Teams. They have renewed their grip on several audiences.

I guess two out of three ain't bad. Minecraft and Code are both awesome, but Teams is probably the most annoying piece of software on my work laptop.

"But you have heard of me..."

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

DeepMind, and by extension AlphaGo, AlphaFold, AlphaStar, AlphaCode. Google Brain, and by extension the Transformer model (~which is the T in GPT~ my bad, it's Generative PreTraining, not General Purpose Transformer), and TensorFlow. Waymo, which is rolling out robotaxis in a few places. Not sure which department or subsidiary is responsible for their TPUs, the Sycamore 53-qbit quantum processor, or LaMDA.

I have not used any of those.

Waymo, ok, I don't live in that area. How can I try any of the other projects you listed?

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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post #121

Does anybody else have the feeling "Microsoft is back"? With GitHub and OpenAI the have put their finger on two pretty significant new projects. What new things has Google come up with over the last 5 years?

if acquiring companies means you "are back" what was the value anyways?

windows 11 seems like an intentional disaster where basif features are misaing because microsoft decided you didnt need to them. office seems to be getting worse and is now solely about thay subscription money.

and many of microsofts acquisitions just languish slowly - linkedin etc.

google can buy conpanies too. meh.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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I notice a few people lamenting that OpenAI will no longer be... open.

But I have to wonder, in what sense is OpenAI open today?

In 2019, OpenAI transitioned from non-profit to for-profit. At that time, Microsoft invested US$1 billion into the company. OpenAI then announced its intention to commercially license its technologies.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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I notice a few people lamenting that OpenAI will no longer be... open. But I have to wonder, in what sense is OpenAI open today ? In 2019, OpenAI transitioned from non-profit to for-profit. At that time, Microsoft invested US$1 billion into the company. OpenAI then announced its intention to commercially license its technologies.

Open for people with money. Open demos for everyone else (limited time).
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