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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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If you are in the right location it's a viable alternative to fibre. Here's mine, elsewhere in the UK (not in Newcastle): https://www.speedtest.net/result/14185051949 Cheaper than fibre and 30-day rolling contract. Unlimited data.

Which provider is that?

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I still haven't figure out how to get IPv6 with hyperoptic with my own router. Other than that, I second, good service.

Don’t bother. Their IPv6 setup is notoriously broken. They have a number of IPv6 misconfiguration in their core switches which makes using IPv6 with your own hardware almost impossible. Unfortunately it seems they’ve also let go of all their good network admin. It used to be possible to find someone at Hyperoptic capable of investigating and fixing these issues, but no more.

I've been using their IPv6 for years on my Turris Omnia (TurrisOS is based on OpenWRT and also open source) plugged directly to their switch. Everything works via DHCPv6 and RA. I get a /56 PD that I can use for my LAN subnets as I wish. The IPv6 Internet is fast and stable.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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It may be in a duct, but occasionally the manholes are in really awkward locations - like in the middle of an extremely busy road. I've been waiting for symmetric fibre for a year, and they're trying to install it, but getting the permission to close the road to lift up the manhole is proving to be a challenge.

But my impression of London (from living there for a few years in the 2010s) was that it is very much a 6am-11pm city and everything is shut at night. Surely infrastructure work can take place during night shifts? I found the experience of working in the city and living in Westminster frustrating, because shops, public transport and even pubs(!) would effectively have closed by the time you finished work.

It's a bit later nowadays, at least in the normal sorts of places you'd go out (Soho, Shoreditch, etc.). Though, what are you doing working until 11pm?

In any case you'll still find the roads can be busy at all hours. The night is used, as you say, for a lot of infrastructure type stuff which means the main roads are still busy, getting the city ready for the next day.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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England is different from the UK. Original title says "the UK", so why not use that?

There are two laws of interest here [1] (in the original authoritive source .gov.uk release) One law applies to both England and Wales (not to Cornwall, Scotland, or Northern Ireland). The other applies to England alone. Neither applies to the whole of the United Kingdom. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-homeowners-an...

They both apply to Cornwall as it is part of England.

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It can make a maximum difference in cost of about 1% of the final sale price, probably less given the cap and average prices of new build properties. I don't think it'll have a big impact on whether the houses sell, we have a huge undersupply of new housing.

Yes. Now add 1,000 other regulations. Oh my, how the price of housing has gone up!

As there aren't enough houses to meet demand, the price is a function of available credit.

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Not just materials, but materials too, yes. But time and effort is probably more costly.

Land value and inflation driven by supply shortage are the actual drivers of house prices in the UK. Especially with new builds, the BOM is very small, and houses are built typically to an exceptionally poor standard.

But there is a cap on how much houses can be and that is the credit available to make the purchase. So house prices are largely a function of available credit.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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If legislation is going to get involved, wouldn't better mobile coverage at faster speeds be the thing to go for? Wouldn't that have broader impact? I'm not saying the last mile doesn't count. Only that given the choice it feels like they went for the fax machine.

> wouldn't better mobile coverage at faster speeds be the thing to go for?

Maybe, but you'd still need to have fibre run to any new builds to put a transceiver there to get the high speeds and to not saturate the bands that the transceivers are operating in. You might as well run the fibre into the house and let the home owner choose what to do with it.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Not really the same though, we have many options that ride on top of the BT OpenReach network so most urban places get many cheap options for internet. If you want fibre to the home then Virgin Media is still your main option which is a little annoying.

But what are your options for fiber to the home? It seems to me like whether you have FTTP available to me depends on whether BT decides to build fiber to your house. Yeah, telephone loop unbundling adds some additional competition for the actual internet transit portion. But when people say “like a utility” I think they are thinking about something like sewer/water utilities in the US, where a municipal entity build…

The FTTP roll out is slow for sure but it’s getting there. OpenReach have a lot of funding from the government to do it but it’s wrapped up in complicated requirements is my understanding.

Unless you want to go with virgin media in which case you can usually get fttp with them - but only them.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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So, will I have to stick coins in the modem before it works or is that just for the power?

Do you still do that for power?

I don't think we've had coin meters for at least a decade now. A previous place I rented had a card meter that I topped up at the local shop and they'll still exist, but thats just for power.

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