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Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by allisdust »

SoftTalker wrote: post #43

I can't imagine using ChatGPT for anything, personally. As a society we have grown physically obese on high calorie, sugar-packed foods combined with a sedentary lifestyle. Seems like we're about to become mentally obese when we no longer have to use our minds read or write and can just be spoon-fed AI generated words, music, and video. We will become a society of fat, drooling simpletons sitting in recliners consumi…

By that definition, you shouldn't be using computers or calculators or contacts application on the phone. These tools are augmenting our own computational units we carry around. Sort of like a external storage or a external tpu.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by CTDOCodebases »

wyldfire wrote: post #29
warning26 wrote: post #5

It’s really impressive watching OpenAI go from “no one can use this model because it’s too dangerous” to “everyone can use the model online but you can’t have the model because we’re selling it to Microsoft for billions of dollars.”

What is their sincere interpretation of "Open" in "OpenAI"? Their models are not distributed publicly, correct? Do they describe the network characteristics and training data openly? Where's the "open" part? EDIT: I just read their charter and it describes "benefit of humanity" (laudable if feasible for them to deliver on it) but nothing about openness.

Open for Business.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by fullsend »

karpierz wrote: post #50

I'm seeing a lot of responses that see ChatGPT replacing Google, and it's unclear to me how? It can replace queries like "what's the tallest mountain in France", but that's not really a profitable query for Google. Whereas it's unclear to me how it replaces "best vegetarian restaurants in Gastown". It can string together a coherent statement, but then I have to go search to see whether it actually recommended vegetar…

Have you used it? Start working on anything. Next time you go to Google how to do something, or want to name something, or want to convert formats, or a dozen other things, just ask GPT. Say “give me 5 cool names for this”. Any task. “Show me a garden plot given plants from this time of year.” “Tell me about different types of LLCs and the tradeoffs.” “This code isn’t working what’s wrong.” You’ll quickly be able to feel how it can do your work for you, or shortcut hours of digging through garbage blogs and ad-infested pages served by Google. Go read one of the Twitter threads with 100 different insane, mind blowing examples of use cases.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by scottLobster »

kenhwang wrote: post #28
buzzdenver wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT Caused 'Code Red' at Google: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/chatgpt-caus...

ChatGPT is one of those few technologies that: 1. Competes against and destroys Google's primary profit center (search). 2. Google cannot copy, improve, and give away for free to use as a moat without severe collateral damage to itself. There's very little incentive to use a search engine to find an ad ridden website to answer a question when one can ask ChatGPT directly for a much better response. Google is rightful…

How is it hard? You just intersperse the adds in the text. "If you're interested in good headphones you should try Sponsor Raycons!"

Of course it will be annoying and alienate customers. Since when has that stopped any information provider from inserting ads into content? The better the product the more you can abuse your customers and make more money.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by alar44 »

insanitybit wrote: post #51
SoftTalker wrote: post #43

I can't imagine using ChatGPT for anything, personally. As a society we have grown physically obese on high calorie, sugar-packed foods combined with a sedentary lifestyle. Seems like we're about to become mentally obese when we no longer have to use our minds read or write and can just be spoon-fed AI generated words, music, and video. We will become a society of fat, drooling simpletons sitting in recliners consumi…

Some counterpoints. 1. People have been saying "this tech will make people stupid" for ages. And it's kind of true, but it's not clear that it's bad. Yes, when technology can do things we stop learning to do those things because it stops mattering. If it does still matter we would still learn. 2. I've had good conversations with ChatGPT. I didn't ask it to solve a problem, I asked it to describe algorithms, give me i…

I feel like the people who think ChatGPT is pointless, unusable, boring etc, don't really get it. If you need to know a hard fact, just Google it. GPT will tell you what to look for.

For example, I needed to learn about Slack chatbots. I asked it what frameworks I should look into, then how to use a specific framework or API. "Write me some boilerplate code doing X in Y framework". It's gets you up and running in minutes.

I'm exploring and learning other programming languages at a crazy rate because I can have it translate something I wrote. Or, "Hey, give me a demo C++ program that uses arrays, for loops, logical operators, and a simple class." "Great, now rewrite this in Node.js."

Sure, it might make a mistake, but copy and paste your error code and 90% of the time it compiles.

I highly encourage any skeptics to just sit for a couple days and try to get it to write code. Once you get the hang of what it can and can't do, it's immensely helpful. This is vacuum tubes to transistors paradigm changing shit.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by sudodude »

SoftTalker wrote: post #43

I can't imagine using ChatGPT for anything, personally. As a society we have grown physically obese on high calorie, sugar-packed foods combined with a sedentary lifestyle. Seems like we're about to become mentally obese when we no longer have to use our minds read or write and can just be spoon-fed AI generated words, music, and video. We will become a society of fat, drooling simpletons sitting in recliners consumi…

The biggest downfall at the moment is it's questionable accuracy in some cases but saying you can't see any potential in this tech seems disingenuous at best.

The amount of time it could save just by being good at summarizing the thousands of pages of poorly structured documentation I read yearly is immense.

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by miscaccount »

mtnGoat wrote: post #40
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely Bing’s ChatGPT interface will have ads. There’s no money in giving it away for free. And Google can embed a clone of it in their search interface as well. So I don’t see this being a competitive advantage for anyone against Google. If anything, it’s one more moat for new search providers to cross.

Eroding your competitors business model is a business tactic. Many business run as loss leaders.

apple pulled this on facebook in the name of privacy.

now they have ads and VR pulled away from facebook

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by jonas21 »

kenhwang wrote: post #28
buzzdenver wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT Caused 'Code Red' at Google: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/chatgpt-caus...

ChatGPT is one of those few technologies that: 1. Competes against and destroys Google's primary profit center (search). 2. Google cannot copy, improve, and give away for free to use as a moat without severe collateral damage to itself. There's very little incentive to use a search engine to find an ad ridden website to answer a question when one can ask ChatGPT directly for a much better response. Google is rightful…

On the other hand, this could be a huge opportunity for Google.

1. Google already has their own internal equivalent of ChatGPT [1]. They haven't deployed it publicly yet, probably out of fear of bad PR.

2. Unlike search ads, which you can block or ignore, chat ads will be woven into the conversation at opportune times.

3. A chat format means users will spend more time on Google, rather than clicking on a link and leaving -- which means more opportunities for ads.

[1] https://blog.google/technology/ai/lamda/

Re: Microsoft eyes $10B bet on ChatGPT

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Post by chr-s »

kenhwang wrote: post #28
buzzdenver wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT Caused 'Code Red' at Google: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/chatgpt-caus...

ChatGPT is one of those few technologies that: 1. Competes against and destroys Google's primary profit center (search). 2. Google cannot copy, improve, and give away for free to use as a moat without severe collateral damage to itself. There's very little incentive to use a search engine to find an ad ridden website to answer a question when one can ask ChatGPT directly for a much better response. Google is rightful…

They could work the ads into the results:

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To ensure that the engine runs smoothly and efficiently, it is important to use high-quality motor oil, like Mobil 1 motor oil. Mobil 1 is designed to protect your engine against wear and tear, even in extreme driving conditions. It is also formulated to help extend the life of your engine and maintain its performance.

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