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Old man yells at cloud

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Re: Old man yells at cloud

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Man vehicles are a big one. All of the infotainment crap, the 200 control computers, electronic wastegate turbos, etc. etc. are going to age so poorly. There is a reason why cars with mininal BS are fetching such a premium on the used market.

peak toyota/lexus was around 2006. After that all downhill.

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Re: Old man yells at cloud

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Regarding video games

> This is objectively a worse experience than I grew up with (and it costs a whole lot more too.)

This is objectively wrong. Inflation-adjusted Nintendo console launch prices have been trending downward since the 80s. Games are cheaper too. I remember saving up to spend $40-$50 for NES games in the early 90s, which would be in the $100 range in today's dollars. That's significantly more expensive than the $60 first-party Switch games today.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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The first example is because the game had a patch, I'm pretty sure that you can skip that on Switch, but even if you can't, games that couldn't be patched were objectively worse than ones that can. The second example is social media and has been discussed to death. No arguments there. The third example, Tesla's UI, could be said to be worse than manual buttons, but the technology in a Tesla is not objectively worse o…

No, I think that games that couldn't be patched were, at the very least, just as good and very likely a lot better than modern games. At the very least, the fact that the game couldn't be patched meant that companies invested in QA and testing. In those days, "going gold" or shipping the master ROM was a big deal , and so companies went out of their way to ensure that their product didn't have any huge showstopper bu…

Survivorship bias. Games that couldn't be patched were better if they worked on your architecture. Otherwise you were just left out in the cold or you bought an entirely new PC to play them.

Consoles were better because (after the Crash) the vendors guarded them jealously and put the developers through an absolute hell of quality control to confirm they shipped a working product on the cartridge. Of course, the consequence is that they had massive editorial power over the games that existed in their ecosystem.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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These are all examples of tradeoffs that have been made, and just collecting examples of the downsides of those tradeoffs without mentioning the upsides. Touchscreens are objectively worse than dedicated buttons, but the ability to have more than 4-5 buttons is a huge benefit. additionally, the UI can be less confusing because the button text can change depending on what you're doing, vsm a single physical d-pad and…

I don’t mind touchscreens in cars, but there are just some controls that are used all the time and should be buttons. I think most car manufacturers are figuring out that right mix…except perhaps Tesla who is insistent on removing ever tactile button for a touchscreen or capacitive touch button.

Yep... radio, AC, all the lights etc. should always be physical buttons. Reseting TPMS settings can be done on a touchscreen too.

Sadly, even stuff like radio and AC controls in some cars have moved to touchscreens, and that sucks a lot.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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There was an era maybe 10-15 years ago where so many PC games were just these semi-automatic ports from the Xbox version, and they were just awful and lazy. That pretty much killed PC gaming for me. I remember it got so bad that Borderlands 2 specifically marketed on the fact that the PC version was not just a lazy port. They actually advertised that you could change the FOV.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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It's so true:

* I can't even install Netflix on my Iphone 7+ anymore (the phone practically brand new, it is less than 6 six years old!)

* Screens in cars replacing usable buttons, are a disaster. give me buttons and knobs.

* the TV takes 15 seconds to start up??? and takes 10+ seconds to select a youtube video to watch. back when I was a kid, tvs turned on right away and you could change the channel in less than a second.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

peak toyota/lexus was around 2006. After that all downhill.

4runner are still decent.

Agreed! Big rubber controls! Designed to last 20-30 years. If you lean towards “buy things that last to reduce your footprint” and don’t commute a massive distance everyday, it’s a good and reliable car to keep in your driveway

Re: Old man yells at cloud

#58
Google Search was better 10 years ago.

Linux is better, OS X hasn't been as awesome as they focused on emojis and stuff, Windows seems to have improved in many ways but regressed in others.

Car interfaces are going to hell with capacitive buttons and touch screens, instead of simple and reliable old tech that works.

Services instead of owning games/apps.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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More accurate title: some aspects of technology have gotten objectively worse. E.g. for cars, the whole touchscreen thing instead of knobs for things like temperature control is worse, but on the other hand cars are safer than they used to be. Similarly, while yes there are some aspects of video games that have gotten worse, like needing to download a patch for an offline game, there's some stuff that's better: there…

How many cars are actually like that? I only know a few people with newer (2020+) cars and all of them have physical controls as well as touch screen controls. They're all Asian cars so maybe that's why, but anecdotally I've never seen a car completely controlled by a touchscreen.

Re: Old man yells at cloud

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Man vehicles are a big one. All of the infotainment crap, the 200 control computers, electronic wastegate turbos, etc. etc. are going to age so poorly. There is a reason why cars with mininal BS are fetching such a premium on the used market.

peak toyota/lexus was around 2006. After that all downhill.

I have an 08 corolla that seems indestructible.

I sorta want to replace it, because I don't really like driving my children around in it, but new cars seem incredibly complex. I'm just trying to drive here, man.

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