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‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Post by coryrc »

atoav wrote: post #291
emtel wrote: post #48

One time, I was driving at night in the Sierra after a storm - roads were covered in snow. It's a drive I've made close to 100 times without incident. Going around a bend, I saw a car in the ditch on the outside of the curve. I stopped the car, put on the hazards, and went to see if there was anyone in the car. As I was about to cross the highway a car come sliding around the bend more or less sideways. I stopped and…

> If anyone would like to explain why that didn't kill me I'm all ears. What kills people is current, not voltage. With AC having your heart beat 50 times a second can also cause you to die hours or even days after receiving a shock, but even that requires enough current to flow and cross your skin resistance. Go to ghe hospital even if you are alive and feel well after an electrical shock! Your heart may have suffer…

Stone isn't very conductive, so I expect that majorly reduced the current.

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Post by weaksauce »

usefulcat wrote: post #334
weaksauce wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd hazard a guess that the person is using 120vac 60Hz instead of 230/50. 120vac is not as dangerous as 230 w.r.t. this kind of accident. I agree that they seem to have only held the fixture with one arm and probably standing on the leg with the arm outstretched or at least biasing weight to that leg to help reach. the current likely didn't go deep and didn't go across the heart. i agree that there wasn't a hard con…

They said it was in Portugal, which is 230v/50hz

ah missed that part good catch

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Post by syncopatience »

Sebb767 wrote: post #337
mcguire wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most things that are incredibly dangerous won't kill you individually. Something incredibly dangerous might kill 10%---one in ten. Years ago, I heard of someone feeding their pets cooked, bone-in chicken. Eating cooked chicken bones is very dangerous, but you can do it for years before that one day that it suddenly isn't safe.

> Eating cooked chicken bones is very dangerous Why is that?

Cooking the bones makes them brittle. They break open easily when chewed, and the sharp edges can perforate the GI tract after they're eaten.

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Post by Spooky23 »

newaccount74 wrote: post #324
atoav wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If anyone would like to explain why that didn't kill me I'm all ears. What kills people is current, not voltage. With AC having your heart beat 50 times a second can also cause you to die hours or even days after receiving a shock, but even that requires enough current to flow and cross your skin resistance. Go to ghe hospital even if you are alive and feel well after an electrical shock! Your heart may have suffer…

> With AC having your heart beat 50 times a second can also cause you to die hours or even days after receiving a shock Can you point to any source for this? I have not been able to find any report of someone suddenly dying from cardiac problems days after an electric shock. It sounds kinda plausible, but I wonder if it is an urban legend. People lose limbs or die from severe electric burns, and people can die from c…

Absolutely. Shocks can cause arrhythmias that are fatal hours or days later.

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Post by mhandley »

atoav wrote: post #291
emtel wrote: post #48

One time, I was driving at night in the Sierra after a storm - roads were covered in snow. It's a drive I've made close to 100 times without incident. Going around a bend, I saw a car in the ditch on the outside of the curve. I stopped the car, put on the hazards, and went to see if there was anyone in the car. As I was about to cross the highway a car come sliding around the bend more or less sideways. I stopped and…

> If anyone would like to explain why that didn't kill me I'm all ears. What kills people is current, not voltage. With AC having your heart beat 50 times a second can also cause you to die hours or even days after receiving a shock, but even that requires enough current to flow and cross your skin resistance. Go to ghe hospital even if you are alive and feel well after an electrical shock! Your heart may have suffer…

Way back when I was a student living in an old rented house in London, I went into the bathroom to find the bulb had blown. It was a pull cord switch, so I didn't know if it was on or off, but knew I wouldn't be so stupid as to stick my fingers in the bulb holder while changing the bulb, so no big deal if it was still live. Standing barefoot on the enamelled metal bath, I bent the cable so I could see how to screw the bulb in, and the ancient insulation on the cable split. I came to, lying in the bath with a huge bump on the back of my head. I knew exactly which path the current had taken because it hurt all down the right side of my body, but fortunately it mostly went down that side, not across my chest. So much for British bathrooms having pull-cord switches so you can't electrocute yourself.

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Post by naikrovek »

swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #326

This reminds me of a time when I went to the grand canyon with some buddies. We stayed there for a few days. Then made the drive back to the airport to fly home Along the way to the airport some asshat setup traps along the highway. These were boulders the size of soccer balls scattered along the highway. We don't see these coming as there's a car in front of us Next thing you know that car in front is veering out of…

things like this convince me that humanity is doomed.

A) your car was tailgating if you couldn't see those stones soon enough to stop before hitting one.

B) the asshat who placed those stones will do things like this the rest of their life, and/or will encourage others to do so. that kind of thinking doesn't get corrected, that kind of thinking learns how not to get caught.

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Post by gghffguhvc »

naikrovek wrote: post #346
swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #326

This reminds me of a time when I went to the grand canyon with some buddies. We stayed there for a few days. Then made the drive back to the airport to fly home Along the way to the airport some asshat setup traps along the highway. These were boulders the size of soccer balls scattered along the highway. We don't see these coming as there's a car in front of us Next thing you know that car in front is veering out of…

things like this convince me that humanity is doomed. A) your car was tailgating if you couldn't see those stones soon enough to stop before hitting one. B) the asshat who placed those stones will do things like this the rest of their life, and/or will encourage others to do so. that kind of thinking doesn't get corrected, that kind of thinking learns how not to get caught.

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Post by devin »

emtel wrote: post #48

One time, I was driving at night in the Sierra after a storm - roads were covered in snow. It's a drive I've made close to 100 times without incident. Going around a bend, I saw a car in the ditch on the outside of the curve. I stopped the car, put on the hazards, and went to see if there was anyone in the car. As I was about to cross the highway a car come sliding around the bend more or less sideways. I stopped and…

A long time ago someone who did home inspections taught me that if you need to check if something can electrocute you to always use the back of your hand. If it is live, your arm will move away. To this day I always test with the back of my hand before changing a bulb.

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Post by ygjb »

alar44 wrote: post #267
MrFantastic wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you aren't strong swimmer you should not play in ocean waves. If you don't know if you are a strong swimmer you are NOT. The ocean doesn't give a shit about your life.

That's just ridiculous. Most public beaches are perfectly safe.

That's a lie that people tell themselves.

It is fairly safe at most public beaches if: * you follow the posted signs for rules (e.g. where it's safe to dive, staying in marked areas), flags for current conditions * pay attention to weather conditions * know (roughly) when and how much of a change the tide will bring

Unfortunately, a significant number of people don't follow the rules, or underestimate the risk.

There is a reason many public beaches located within an urban center have lifeguards and patrols.

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Post by LAC-Tech »

gghffguhvc wrote: post #347
naikrovek wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

things like this convince me that humanity is doomed. A) your car was tailgating if you couldn't see those stones soon enough to stop before hitting one. B) the asshat who placed those stones will do things like this the rest of their life, and/or will encourage others to do so. that kind of thinking doesn't get corrected, that kind of thinking learns how not to get caught.

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I always just count the seconds. When I was a kid in NZ we had a great public service campaign by an Australian racing legend, who told us "Arnly a fewel braiks the tew second rewel"
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